also what are the points per ship ie 1-frigates,2-cruisers,5-capital ships?????????????

Plunder n'booty off the port bow!

pirates seem uber aggressive if there is any bounty on your head... this game on hard settings is almost impossible...

Yeah, if you've got bounty on you, the pirates come to collect it. If you don't have any, they may appear but will often just pass you by.

umm hard is impossible, lol , at least in a 1 vs 3 game with pirates on

Beta 2 is still singleplayer, but now many of the gameplay elements are in (beta 1 was very bare-bones).

i am playing on normal

the game i was just playing i had 6=7 grav wells

had fights going on in 4 of them

i order my fleet to one system and they take a short cut through unknown space and get my in another fight. the fleet never did get where i told them to go. it stopped in the second unknown grav well and started a fight there now i have five fights going on.

the carriers are able to sit at the edge of the map and send in bombers after the cannons. the cannons have no protection against the bombers. which is why i sent the fleet in there in the first place.

there is no room to build trade ports and refineries i had 4 opponents not counting the pirates. one of them allied with me. the pirates did finally stop coming. the cannons need enough range to hit the edge of the grav well or they need some anti fighter guns

my take so far
1) like the limiting aspect, its nescessary, but the logistics numbers are FAR to low, they need to be doubled at the very very least.
2) the ability to jump needs to be reduced, I'm having flashbacks to the first edition of Beta1, 30-45 degrees is the best option
3) like the reworked lanes, seems far more natural now
4) pirates are really agressive, yes. but its not all bad, it means you have to place your fleet better now!
5) early game has been bogged down too much, things are too expensive to buy early on. needs to be adjusted
6) like the dreads, I havent gotten much playtime in with them, but they strike me as frigs-with-abilities
7) capital planet can be moved! thats a huge hurrah.
8) tech trees are nice, I like how you can completely skip certain levels if you want to
9) dead asteroids have the most connections (usually 6-7) very nice
10) ships look cool!

I'll add more as I go along.

I like the way the pirates are now. It makes them a threat to contend with. With that said maybe an option for the level of pirate activity should be added for those that dont like things.

I also think logistics are way to low as Schem pointed out.

For the camera views I would like to see a system like Star Wolves 2 has where you can track specific ship in chase mode and what not.

I agree completely with the logistic number. It is way to low for your home planet and other planets. This really slows down the game as you can end up needing to make many more planets just to build up your empire. Perhaps the logistic upgrades could add more slots next time around.

I also feel like we are really limited with defense platforms. I think we need something else or at least the ability to research and upgrade the stations. Perhaps the gauss platforms could get missile and targeting and maybe beam upgrades. Something for later in the game when the enemy had bigger and deadlier ships. It seem like they are just too underpowered to be that effective later in the game.

Another thing that would be great to see visually, would be to have fighters and bombers built inside their hanger or ship instead of on the outside and have to launch each other ships enter the system. This would be both realist and great game wise. Perhaps the earlier warning upgrade could let the fighters and bombers launch earlier and gather around an enemy ships exit point.

Also, I think it would be great if you can set aggressiveness for your empire against others. Like I was playing against 5 other empires and they were not aggressive towards me, but I had planets between these and they would always have to jump into my space to get by, but my ships kept firing on them even after I set them to target only within their weapons range. This is bad because they would not attack pirates just as they entered, so it would be great if you could set them to attack your enemies, but leave others alone. Them firing and destroying other ships got me in real trouble with various empires.

One last thing. For some reason I had bombers floating around in battle and they did not attack anyone. Why is that? Is that a bug? I wasn't able to move them at all, they just hung in space.

what do you mean? me is lost... remember, if you mod the game and find something doesn't work like it did before you modded, don't report it!

anyway the logistics mod I did, hasn't effected research in any way for me..

I love the pirates and I hate the pirates. I just left a game were my capital got raped by no less then 8 crosiers and 10 pillagers as well as a few over assorted ships. My 12 cannons and three hangers (my fleet was on the over side of the galaxy blowing up another persons capital) didn't stand a chance...

immagine the open system!
no, I like it this way. it removes too many choke points that bogged the old game down

mobility has again become too high, its more a question now of luck rather than placement when it comes to troop speed.

also the ships cap is way too low, even with 8 maxed out planets I hardly had enough of a fleet to cover 2. thats just not right.

especially the hangers, it felt like forever to research them, only to get 2 fighters :/