and the first true desk top was in the 60s by non other than radio shack.

it was a moniter and keyboard with a little memory. designed to be hooked up to a main frame.

Ah, if you can’t remember why how could it be the main argument?
My statement was on construction and then you argued more . . again why? if that was not the same argument? (I though you just did not get it and explained again and again clarifying that I was not talking design)
Also you made a bad analogy, then I called you on it then you wonder why I went there? I think you may be confused reread the posts in order.

Point being? In fact what did that mean?
as close as I can come to deciphering it, it may mean that the military does not have those crappy computers. This is rather irreverent really since lame computers like that are made to be cheap and thrown out in a few years (read 2 years) . Also . . [snicker] I do not expect you have been to too many government agencies. You would be amazed at the CR@P they have as computers. (this includes military offices) . . one good thing is with the security upgrades they are now enforcing they are buying more newer workstations (happy day for us!)
Also GPS is a bad example since it is a strictly military made system opened up for common use.
And as computers go . . .I will state again . .I make systems FOR the military and civilian use. . This is a current fact . . this is my day job. There is NO difference between them other than some software and some peripherals that are not even exclusive to the military (just the security minded) I work with People that has programmed, engineered and tested all sorts of Missiles and radar systems. Some of the needed specifications where precise or over engineered but nothing out of the ordinary (proprietary destines yes, but not way out there – then again that may be from my POV? ). Often items are “over engineered” for reliability but even that is not strictly military. Healthcare, financial and security industries also use “over engineered” systems.
A question for you folks . . a bit of a quiz . .
Given that new PC now have processors with 2 cores (and Intel has one currently out with 4) and these can handle one thread per core (giving 2 and 4 virtual CPUs per processor)
What are the military and civilian companies ordering for their data centers for next year? (# of cores and threads per core?)

they actually have an octocore out now, but thats just two quads



one and two?

thanks for not answering ta

?? sorry what did I not do?

? look at post #159 ? orders for systems with 2x8 core (128 vcpu - 64GB mem) are coming in. While 8 core (32 vcpu) systems have been out for just under a year. . . small/mid server size. Workstations tend to have consumer like stats but tend to be more robust.

. . I was wondering what people thought was cutting edge. People often think what they can currently buy is really is the cutting edge . . it ends up being what we can make cheap enough for personal consumers to buy. This level moves around allot . . Currently consumers can get rather powerful systems (gamming systems) though they can be unstable (compareitably)
The civilian companies and the military agencies do not have this massive limitation for the most part. . so we can build much more interesting items for them. But not radically, they all use the same parts (just different grades) except for some key items.


Anyway, I played another game on this beta, Crash crash crash and the inhibitor does not work! . . other then that with the limitation of Crews and support points the game forces a nice mix of ships. That was quite fun to play till it went boom . .

Herm, So could you kindly point me to this information? I guess Everywhere is still not in plain site.

Ah, this was not in the Change log . . Bad developers! Thanks,

Really I must have missed it . .

Ah, "- New Jump Blocker Behavior: Blockers owned by player A at a planet now only block lanes to planets owned by A connected to the same planet. "

Now not calling it an inhibitor . . through me . . even did a search.
Bah that is what I get for doing 3 betas.

Here's a novel idea. Perhaps ship research and design should be a bit more like economic realities. Researching ships designs, rather that granting you build access, should instead reduce the cost of building. A rational player wouldn't crank out a line of ships if he didn't at first invest in the research to reduce its production costs. And the more you build, the faster the production, the greater the efficiency.

So should it be for capital ships. Your first capital ship prototype should include build and research costs. How could you research a design without ever having to build it. You're free to build whatever you want, but are constrained by the reality of economic considerations. If you want to bankrupt yourself building one of each capital ship, you should be allowed to do it, and suffer the consequences of your impulse.

Well...

I too think capital ships should be researched. Well, research in a game of this timeframe is, as in any game wierd if you look at it logically (you dont research anything in 30 mins). But, this is a GAME. And, as a GAME mechanism it's really cool, and adds a lot to the choise of tactics.

So, here's my idea:

At the start of the game you build one ship for free as usual. The rest need to to be researched. So, you have a capital ship of your choise but can't build any other until you do research the right tech so you need to be careful with it. Then to get other capital ships you need to research the neccesary prerequisite tech.

Idea: Tie Capital Ships to cruiser

Capital ship: Needed prereq:
Kol Battleship Kodiak Heavy Cruiser
Sova Carrier Perchirien Light Carrier
Akkan Battlecruiser Hoshiko Robotics Cruiser
Dunov Battlecruiser Cielo Command Cruiser
Marza Dreadnought Krosov Siege Frigate (better yet a new type of cruiser)

Idea2: Tie Capital Ships to research

Capital ship: Needed prereq:
Kol Battleship Advanced Ballistics
Sova Carrier Huge Cargo Holds
Akkan Battlecruiser Arctic and Volcanic Habitation
Dunov Battlecruiser Improved Shield Emitters
Marza Dreadnought Larger Missile Bays

Of course, with these ideas the tech tree needs to be rebalanced.
And, they are just general ideas and not finished in any way.

Cheers