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Flagships

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November 18, 2007 5:54:51 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire ForumsSins of a Solar Empire Forums
I just wanted to suggest to you devs that you should be able to designate a capital ship to be you're flagship. I was just playing a game and my flagship blew up (I as deeply saddened) so I got this idea. Of course you're first capital ship would still be your flagship but then later on you should be able to designate new ones (like if it blows up ) This is what they would do in real life so I just wanted to suggest it. Maybe this could be a feature of the ORANGE BUTTON? Thanks.
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Reply #1 November 18, 2007 7:12:29 PM
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dammit why does nobody listen to me...
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Reply #2 November 18, 2007 7:18:39 PM
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dammit why does nobody listen to me...


People loose their flags all the time...
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Reply #3 November 18, 2007 7:20:06 PM
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I've been listening.
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Reply #4 November 18, 2007 7:25:14 PM
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This isn't exactly a discussion thread where people debate, except for when harrassed about not having replied instantly anyway.
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Reply #5 November 18, 2007 7:25:39 PM
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I've been listening.


Oh yeah. You have a point.

Kiernyc - People can listen and not say anything...
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Reply #6 November 18, 2007 7:26:00 PM
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im not... but i am reading. and this idea has deffinitly be talked about befor, especially in conjuction with possibly giving your flag ship some "intimidation" bonus. like if you jumped into a system and saw your enemys FLAGSHIP staring you in the face, you would probably poo your pants... because its their FLAGSHIP!
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Reply #7 November 18, 2007 8:59:31 PM
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We've also discussed what a flagship is, and why it wouldn't necessarily convene a bonus to your fleet. A flagship can mean the main ship in a fleet, or it can be the first thing (ship, product, service, person, whatever) of a given catagory. ie If sins was the first game the IC made (and I almost think i heard it said that it is) it would be the flagship game for IC.

Hence, when you loose your flagship, you loose the first cap ship you made, and hence you couldn't re-designate another as your "first" because "first" is final. If that made sense.
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Reply #8 November 19, 2007 1:01:36 PM
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It does not make any military sense. Wikipedia:
A flagship is the ship used by the commanding officer of a group of naval ships. The term originates from the custom of the commanding officer (usually, but not always, a flag officer) to fly a distinguishing flag.


Flagship could simply be automatically transferred to the highest ranking capital ship left in the fleet, and/or give some way to assign it. It shouldn't have any direct gameplay effect I think. Patch material, nice-to-have.
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Reply #9 November 19, 2007 2:06:35 PM
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I believe we had this discussion several months ago. I do not remember if it was resolved however.

Personally speaking I think we should be able to name new flagships or at least have an option to build one after our first one dies. I also think this should be a selectable option at start-up.
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Reply #10 November 19, 2007 3:38:51 PM
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I believe we had this discussion several months ago. I do not remember if it was resolved however.


precisely: WWW Link

my opinion is in there, in short: some small (alibi) bonus just for the feel.
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Reply #11 November 19, 2007 5:21:39 PM
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Flagship could simply be automatically transferred to the highest ranking capital ship left in the fleet, and/or give some way to assign it. It shouldn't have any direct gameplay effect I think. Patch material, nice-to-have.


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Reply #12 November 19, 2007 6:20:59 PM
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I don't know about you, but simply Haveing a ships designated "The Flagship" is awsome, if not just for kicks and gigles

Personaly, mine will always be the Marza, and always named "The ThunderChild"

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Reply #13 November 19, 2007 7:37:40 PM
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I don't know about you, but simply Haveing a ships designated "The Flagship" is awsome, if not just for shits and gigles

Personaly, mine will always be the Marza, and always named "The ThunderChild"




Fixed.
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Reply #14 November 19, 2007 7:54:06 PM
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lol shits and giggles
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Reply #15 November 20, 2007 9:31:30 AM
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I still think judging from the way it works ingame already, "flagship" is just the first ship. However, as I have said before, having the flagship convey some bonus or have some benefit would be nice, as long as it isn't game tipping (battle tipping maybe though).
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Reply #16 November 20, 2007 9:35:32 AM
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actually, we are automatically playing in "flagships" mode, in "normal" mode, you dont start with a free cappy
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Reply #17 November 20, 2007 12:32:37 PM
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like if you jumped into a system and saw your enemys FLAGSHIP staring you in the face, you would probably poo your pants... because its their FLAGSHIP!


I don't know about everyone else, but when this happens for me I think, "Oh what a big, fat, lovely target!
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Reply #18 November 20, 2007 4:55:43 PM
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normally a flagship is gonna be the most powerful (and not to mention largest) ship in the fleet.
also, the flagship isn't nessecarily the first ship
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Reply #19 November 20, 2007 5:13:04 PM
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OK

I looked in the dictionary:

Capital Ship - A large first class ship with first class armaments.

Flagship - The ship that carries the commander of a fleet and flies his flag.

So, if the commander and his flagship were to get blown up, they would appoint a new commander and his ship would become the flagship. Therefore, my proposal of appointing a new flagship after the first one blow us makes complete and total sense.
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Reply #20 November 20, 2007 9:49:40 PM
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I believe we had this discussion several months ago. I do not remember if it was resolved however.


precisely: WWW Link

my opinion is in there, in short: some small (alibi) bonus just for the feel.


That is not the one I remember. The one I'm thinking of is from late spring if memory serves.
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Reply #21 November 21, 2007 8:14:33 AM
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I believe we had this discussion several months ago. I do not remember if it was resolved however.


precisely: WWW Link

my opinion is in there, in short: some small (alibi) bonus just for the feel.


That is not the one I remember. The one I'm thinking of is from late spring if memory serves.


maybe you can find it. might have been before my time, but sure would be interesting to take a look at the posts there.
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Reply #22 November 22, 2007 1:41:03 AM
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I the IC people said something like "we'll look into it later on" or something to that effect.
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Reply #23 November 22, 2007 2:10:52 AM
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Well I think most people assume a flagship is the head of an armada. In space combat it can be compared to the Alpha unit of the group. Well anyhow thats what i know
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Reply #24 November 22, 2007 2:18:32 AM
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Maybe flag ships needs giant space flags so we can tell them apart from the other capital ships?

Space Flags

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Reply #25 November 22, 2007 8:54:57 AM
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lol space flags!! YAY
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