You can definately move in the Z axis in Beta4, though its fairly obvious the whole Z axis function isn't polished yet.

HO YEAH! Thanks for the tip! I searched for hours a combination, or a fonction button-clic...

There is no plan for Z-Axis manipulation of structures. That said, solar systems do vary on the Z-axis -- a minor degree internally, and I believe a fair bit externally (different systems at wildly different Z's... I think.)

Again, its too late for major changes and options are bad because the devs have to balance both options -- which becomes an exponential problem as more and more options are added in to suit various people.

???? flatter than Starcraft?????



starcraft was pretty flat, and it is like in HW, at first you nvr use the function, but eventully you'll begin to notice how 3D it realy is. (like ships passing over planets)

Can anyone say..tactics mod?

How's that for Z axis? The enemy ships jumped from up there, and so did my forces once I told them to go somewhere (which means the grav well is a sphere. That was obviously the closest tangent to them).

BTW that battle is directly above that asteroid.

Dudes, I know there is a way to issue Z orders (I learned it at the start of this thread..) The point is : IT'S WAY TOO UNDER USED. (I'm not even sure the tutorial explains how to issue them).

The reason for that is plane maps.
"and exaggerated the 3d positioning of the planets relative to each other even more."

Well. As I said before, slight nuance. It does not affect gameplay at all.
And please, forget about Starcraft and co. It's was not the point of this topic and it was used with some irony to show the huge potential of 3D fights missed by the game at this point.

(I don't like SC btw, nor i'm korean )

The tutorials aren't final, the devs have more important things on their hands atm.

Read & understand my messages dammit. The point is : right now, moving along Z is useless because the game center everything on z=0.



What's the link between moving ships individually and the 2D vs 3D space?
3D space doesn't involve more micro management.. In fact, you could play EXCATLY the same way, even let your ships auto-attack (if you hate so much controlling your fights). The only bad point (if you consider that as a "bad" one) is that you should have to place your tactical structures more cautiously.
And the good points would be : more realism, more fun, more eye candy, more variety (which the maps lacks atm) and most of all, more tactical potential.

Don't get me wrong though. I spent already almost 100 hours on this game, it got great ideas, etc. And i like it very much already. I'm just astonished that I'm the only one defending 3D movement on a SPACE GAME... I mean... well.. For me it's so obvious that I'm running out of arguments. So i'll just shut up and cross fingers...

I just learned this now. Wow, thats great...better then great. Unfortunatly there are alot of beta4 people out there on the web spreading the rumor that SINS is X/Y only and there is no Z movment. Thats why I never even thought to ask...

can the manual be made of linen ?