Looks like you've checked out most the posts in here. Interesting you have an ATI card with this issue, where most Nvidia guys are waiting for an update hopefully to be released soon. You aren't getting any kind of detailed error from MS?

I was thinking passing around saved games or replays of games that this is happening, see if others experience the lock up at the exact same time, but I don't think that would really work since I can reload a game I had a BSOD and get passed the previous point. It is definitely a behavior that the game and hardware can't handle at once, but duh on that mute point and good luck troubleshooting. I'm also getting an interface (planet quick Pins, bottom and top bars) flicker when I'm zoomed out 2nd to last zoom point, but doesn't seem to relate to an up and coming freeze. I'm keeping an eye on that one. I'm going to see if I can get one my replays to freeze, though I doubt it.

Lets try this, what type of RAM are you using and have you tried the underclock approach I've been trying in another post, post is called "Video Driver Issue causing hangs and bluescreen", around 85 posts. I've cut my RAM from stock 667 MHZ to 533 MHZ and able to get around much better than before, at least enough for me to want to keep playing and on max settings. I'm thinking my OCZ Special Ops is pretty crappy and I have 4 X 1GB of them. In the game I'm in now, I've got a couple hours worth of play and I've frozen I think twice. I don't have it perfectly tuned, but it seems to recover a bit easier, 20-30 secs. It has frozen zoomed out and zoomed in on a fight with some Pirates, so I'm still troubleshooting, though Nvidia says they'll have a fix soon. Just trying to get by until that day arrives.

I agree game is great and easy to lose time, but the freezing issues is a must fix.

What set of drivers are you on? I was using 64bit Vista and had to roll back my ATI drivers to correct this issue.

Thanks.

I tried underclocking but I think I havent quite figured out how to do that yet. I changed something, comp wouldent start, changed it back, and leaving bios alone for now.

I'm on these drivers (8.2): http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx?p=vista32/common-vista32

I'll try using a previous driver (8.1)

I'll just throw in defragging the disc which has sins installed, who knows, it might work.
I'll also try lowering my page file to 1GB again.


Maybe with enough tweaking I'll find a setup that works, I'll let you know, thanks for the advice.

So far I received no error messages, simply a freeze/crash from windows. The most unnerving thing is that now the same thing sometimes happens with other programs, like playing videos or music. I hope I can fix this too :/

Hi all,

I’m playing this game for over a week now without errors in Single and Lan games.
However, seeing people having trouble running this game on Medium/High end “clean” systems is somehow troubling me.

I think the compatibility of Sins with Vista is the main source of pain in "this problem", the crashing and freezing. Just search for XP and then for Vista in the forum search and see for yourself. 0-0

One other possibility i’m thinking of “since some folks here have a positive effect by downgrading their RAM speeds ” is updating your Bios. I don’t know if this can make a positive effect in terms of making your system more compatible with Vista but, if u run a updated system but u forget to update the controller of your system hardware, this could give u trouble.

Here are my specs.
-Gigabyte P35-DQ6.
-Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600.
-Kingstone 2 x 1gb PC2 – 6400 CL4 ( 800MHZ but runs at a wooping 667MHZ (1.8V).
-XFX 8800 gts 320 mb and with the nVIDIA ForceWare 169.21.
-Windows xp 32 bit with sp2.

I just increased my Ram speed to 800MHZ (1.95V) "a 0.15V increase" and IF this is a RAM bugg i'll post futher info later.

This is just an example of a system with no problems running sins on highest settings and on medium sized maps against 3 AI hard. Up to date AND on XP ofcource .

Good luck

@ stitchedchin

I looked all around my bios but could not find the option anywhere at all. Too bad, thanks for the help though.
My motherboard is ASUS P5VD2-VM by the way.


@ Davidian

I know you have I cant even get it to run for more than 10 minutes on a LAN game without a crash or continued freezing. When it runs it runs extremely smooth at the highest settings though.

@ whitewolf0207

Yea, the only thing I can hope for is for a fix in 1.3... hopefully a bit fast.

Give us your specs. Operating System, RAM amount and type, your Virtual RAM amount, and anything else pertinent.

Try re-installing the game first, and if you're on Vista, give it Administrator Privileges.

Usually something failing to load is just a corrupt file and not a hardware issue.

Yeah, starting with Vista 64-bit back in Jan '07, I'm constantly looking for BIOS updates all the time from ASUS. I'm on the latest BIOS for my M2N32-SLI AM2 590 AMD.

http://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5RD2-VM/e2832_p5vd2-vm.pdf
Heres your MB manual.
Syntaris, your BIOS should be 1202 available Nov '07. ASUS EZ Flash is, well easy. Just grab the BIN file from the website, put it on a blank flash drive and follow instructions in your manual on page 56. Probably already have this down, but just in case. In your manual, page 71, 2.4.2, Bios Menu --> Advanced / Chipset / DRAM Clock / Drive Control is where to go. Current DRAM Frequency is on top. Change the Frequency from Auto to one below whatever it says you are currently running. To change your latency, DRAM Timing Selectable should be set to Manual. Then you change the CAS Latency Timing to maybe one less than what you currently on 5 -> 4. If you are already at 2 or 3, depending on your RAM quality, probably leave it there. I don't see a place where you can adjust voltage, so probably leave the rest alone. Sounds like you know how to clear your Bios and get it to work if I lock you up? Check page 30 in the manual, QVL (Qualified Vendor List), see if your RAM is on that list. Mine wasn't, but I took a chance because some guys were saying they didn't have issues. Might be what is burning me, but don't feel like forking out more money for PC parts when I'd rather jump to the new DDR3 platform on my next upgrade.

I'm beginning to see a pattern. A lot of ASUS MBs and definitely Vista having issues. XP has been pretty stable and probably just having PC hardware dependent issues. Could just be that ASUS is the #1 MB maker, too and that's why most people with issues just happen to be on the most popular board. Be interesting to get a concensus on that. I'm thinking Asus's newer boards are probably okay.

s09119, are you on Vista? Yeah, I imagine Supreme Commander is a bigger RAM hog compared to SOASE, but most of the time, SOASE is taking 1.5-1.7 GB of RAM from me, using Vista 64-bit. You checked your virtual memory? Right click Computer / Properties / Advanced / Performance / Advanced. Set that to 1536 if it isn't already. If you still have Supreme installed, run it and then Alt-Tab to desktop, check Task Manager and see how much RAM SC takes up. Try the same for SOASE. If you are comparable there, VM is fine too, then need more specifics like your video card. 256 MB RAM on there or better is probably a must and able to handle 3D is a must. I'm thinking SOASE has a bit more stress on the 3D aspect compared to SC, but that's TOOMA (talkin' out of my arse). That's what I feel like talking about this stuff because once you think you know something, it becomes obsolete...

Thanks for the post Davidian, shows MB and Vista theory nicely. Basically, we're probably screwed for a while til they post some more patches for us suckers.

Whitewolf, what else are you playing and what is working fine for you (though sounds like you won't come back to this game)? I agree, though, be nice if things "just worked" and you didn't have to troubleshoot all day. I call it a hobby to keep my sanity. Dare I say it, but I wish they'd make good games like this for Linux. Optimistically I figure MS has cooler things that make it easier to make games for it, but I'm sure it is just develop for the biggest audience. Wine sounds like a lot of work, but I never would have installed Vista if Linux had a bigger native game following. It is free after all and easy to install... build it and they will come.

Try increasing your Virtual Memory to 4GB.

Yep, I'm thinking tweaking the system only helps when it is a real hardware issue, but just plain communication/timing issues, we're going to have to wait for the patches. If this Nvidia patch doesn't work, I may have to check with Asus and see if they got something they can do.

Been playing now since the day of the official release and have been following the forums on the issues. My system is
Pentium Dual Core E2140 1.6GHz with 800MHz FSB
3 GB ram on ASUS motherboard model IPIBL-LB
NVidia GEFORCE 8500GT with 512 MB
Logitech MX3200 wireless mouse and keyboard
Acer AL2016W monitor
Vista 32 bit OS
So far I have not experienced any major issues. Typical FPS run around 30 with an occasional drop to 4-5 but no noticeble problems.
I have had no lockups either. All things considered I think this is fairly decent. I have also played the game on my laptop which is a Compaq with a AMD processor around 1.2 GHZ and 512 MB ram with just the standard mobile video card. Even on it the game runs fine, if not a little slow. Anyway if anything the only issue I have is there seems to be a slight lag in the mouse. I will click and then as I move it will activate the button I am moving over instead of where I clicked, which may be mouse related. So all in all compared to some games I have played I say hats off to SoaSE.

Sin ON