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BSOD During Game

July 25, 2008 9:18:00 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire ForumsSins of a Solar Empire Forums

I installed Sins of my P4 HT computer which has 1.5GB of RAM and a 512mb ATI sapphire Radeon X1650 Pro graphics card with a 19" widescreen monitor at a res of 1440x900. I set the game to the high settings (not highest) with bloom but no anti-analising at a res of 1440x900. I then started a random small game, the game started to load and got half way then crashed (making the repeating sound) then within seconds went to a BSOD. This was the first time I had got a BSOD on my PC and it had only happened during this game. I don't know what had caused it but this was the error which was logged in the stop error:

0xC0000005: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION indicates a memory access violation occurred.

However I don't know what caused this error however I am guessing it was my graphics card driver. (though I don't really know)

I have set the graphics of the game down, turning down the res to the default and turning off bloom. This seems to of helped, I have not had a BSOD since and I have played for hours on the game but I am still conceried about what could of caused the BSOD so any help would be helpful.

Thanks

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Reply #1 July 25, 2008 9:24:44 AM
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Can you check the system logs in control panel\event viewer and get the four addresses as well?
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Reply #2 July 25, 2008 11:59:37 AM
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Yep the address in event view say:

Error code 1000007e, parameter1 c0000005, parameter2 806e494f, parameter3 ba503c30, parameter4 ba50392c
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Reply #3 July 30, 2008 7:15:54 AM
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Anyone know what the problem could of been?
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Reply #4 July 30, 2008 11:36:09 AM
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It could be a driver issue, but if it is, it doesn't seem to be a commonly known one (no google results for those addresses). Unfortunately investigating windows dumps with the Microsoft bugcheck tool is a bit beyond my expertise, but you can google for that if you want to try that option.

It's also possible that some part of your machine is going bad or overheating; To eliminate the latter possibility at least, you can crack the computer's case open and blow out any dust and fuzz that may have accumulated on the heatsinks.
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Reply #5 July 31, 2008 6:38:42 PM
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Could be dust, though the heat sink is a brick (being a Intel P4 HT) so is harder to clean.
It could be bad drivers seeing as the drivers I have from ATI have odd effects on my card. Like an instant flash just before playing and video and a slight zig zaging line on dark colours but not on blacks.
I think this is more of a driver problem that the card itself seeing as my brother (who has the exact same card (we brought them together)) has the same effects that I have but has not had a BSOD on Sins though he runs his PC on a 1024x768 res.
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Reply #6 July 31, 2008 7:58:38 PM
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If you're seeing graphical artifacts then that would definitely point to a bad video driver or video card overheat/failure. Just because another from the same lot is good though, that doesn't necessarily mean that yours can't have a defect.
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Reply #7 August 1, 2008 6:39:46 AM
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It could be a bad card but its odd when my brother's card (which is the same as mine) has the exact same artifacts and even another type of ATI card (which uses the same drivers) has similar artifacts. Its just seems like the drivers are bad. If it is a bad card then sins is the only game that is/was effected by it while all my other games like HL2 aren't, just seems abit odd really.
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Reply #8 August 2, 2008 9:25:47 AM
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As for overheating well the fan on my Graphics card is also cooled by the huge fan from the processor so in fact should be cooler than my brothers card were the card is located in a heated area that is full of dust. (Though our cards have different heat sinks on them)

I'm just trying to find the real problem here, comparing the two cards as they have the same artefacts as each other with there location within the PC. (my pc being almost dust free while my bros is full of dust) I have alot of graphically challenging games on my PC that might cause the card fail HL2, Garry's Mod being the biggest however I still think Sins eats a huge amount of recourse pushing my RAM to its limits rather than using graphics.
To counter this I am going to up my RAM to 2GB which should help the use of my PC in many levels and would hopefully reduce the chances of another BSOD.
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Reply #9 August 2, 2008 1:42:38 PM
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Onion-n,

In another thread you mentioned that you use an old IDE HD which ("makes all sorts of noises as it read/writes etc..") for your pagefile.


thread in which you reference your squealing IDE drive


This is a very bad idea. I would get rid of that failing HD immediately. I'm sure you'd be surprised at how many of your problems would go into the trash along with that dying HD.


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Reply #10 August 3, 2008 12:40:18 PM
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Possibly, migrating the data off it would be annoying but I do have a free SATA port on my PC and getting a faster drive would allow me to install things on it other than just work. I could always just stop using it for virtual memory that way the computer should have no reason to access it while in a game.
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