hm, well I can tell you one thing which is that the devs wanted a system where every unit would have a role and be useful throughout the game. in a way, heavy cruisers replace light frigs a bit towards the end, but for tec and advent the former are still quite useful later on for countering anti-matter heavy foes.

as such ... well, how much additional differentiation for pure attack units can there be. do you want 10 different ships which all fullfill the same basic role, but with small nuances? I dunno, I am fairly fine with a smaller set of more distinct units.

that said, by far not all capships are support. kol is a pure fighting machine and except for the planet bombing ability so is the marza and look at the vasari desolator. tell me thats not a direct combat ship.

Actually.... the Khol is a pure damage mitigation machine.. it doesnt do much damage at all.. infact all the Tec caps are weak in firepower, with the other races comming off better.

If neither use special abilities a level 1 Progenator defeats a level 1 khol in combat.
If both use special abilities a Vassari Colonly cap"name escapes me currntly" defeats a khol because of nanite disaasember.


Caps need to be rebalanced.. and while I dont want to see them have massively improved firepower.. I would like to see some changes which increase there effectiveness.

Long Range Caps like the Marza actually BE long ranged say 8000 range instead of 5000-5500 they are now

Other caps range increased to 6000

Colonly caps ablity to bombard planets removed.
If you dont build a colonly cap you have to build a colonly ship, if you do build a colonly cap why not force the player to have to build a planet bombardment frigate.

Considering how the Proginater ends up being the BEST CAP peroid for fleet engagements, and how the Vassari Cap is damn good 1on1 agasint other caps, it really would balance things a bit and make "rushing" less of an issue but still possible.
Of course.. colonly caps would have there speed restored.


Overall, I think caps need to accelerate and turn faster.. mostly turning.. not because I dont think they really NEED too if there in th open its fine.. but caps get stuck between other ships or between buildings and end up not beinga ble to jump or move and get killed because of the bad AI.

the fact that if you look at the caps armor health shields and damages for each race.. the COMBAT caps bring more default firepower to the table... except matched agasint another races cap "colonly" which is surposed to be the weakest in firepower it gets defeated.

a caps after a jump quite often end up with NO antimatter.....why should the khol be required to expand antimatter to be an effective unit when vs other units which DONT need to?



Caps dont do much damage.. a long range cap for taking out point defences wouldnt be that powerful.. and the vasari and the TEC dreadnaughts already do have a limited fireing arc longer before they are given a squadron and have slightly less health and hitpoints(I cant for the life of me remember the stats for the Advent dread).

I believe point defences have a range of 8000 so a longrange cap would match it.

Besides that capitalships already sweep point defences aside.... infact I wouldnt mind seeing them do more damage to caps.

I agree that colony capital ship power is too strong.

It's sad that my space eggs can defeat any and all comers, when they also offer enhanced colonization, warp negation, and massive bombardment at level 6.

The direct capital ships should be able to mop the floor with the support ships; why build direct capital ships, otherwise?

Theres other things to look at too. A kol for example in a fleet fighting against multiple targets is more effective then a space egg in the exact same situation.

I really like the idea of a mobile frigate factory. Maybe its my longing for another Homeworld though...