Vasari mines are totally broken IMO because of this.  Until they fix it you're basically forced to play games against TEK/Advent players only.  If you look around there are MANY threads about the mine issue... it's not really a problem of them being overpowered, but rather of the Vasari being able to drop an unlimited number of them for free.

Or a simple way to solve this problem would be to send a scout ahead and not just jump in your entire fleet.

I reckon mines will take up tactical slots at release, which should remedy the complaints raised in this thread. We have got to remember its a Beta and some of the stuff, for example the cost of SBs, is provisional.

Jump the scout in, see 1000 mines, scout dies from enemy strikecraft/defenses/ships/mines.

Send scouts in with your fleet, ships decide to go bombard the planet or attack the Starbase despite being able to see the mines and despite orders to hold position, fleet gets destroyed.

Send scouts in with your fleet, game turns into a slideshow, all the ships won't even render due to hitting the memory cap.

Send scouts in with your fleet, somehow win, then spend the next 30 minutes manually clearing the minefield.

I've seen all of these happen. None of them are fun. Some of them are so unplayable that I'd call the game broken and demand a refund if the release version had the same problem.  (One of the requirements of the Gamers Bill of Rights is that the game run with adequate performance, which it doesn't when mine spam starts, and my system is well above the requirements.)

I find it cute that you think "send a scout in" actually solves the problem. Have you been playing against the AI when it decides to attack with a fleet that's 50% mine layers?

Mines should be nerfed in some way but they should be allowed to mine the edge of grav wells where ships come out of phase lanes, just send in scouts first and either send in expendable ships first, atatck the planet by other routes or just bypass it entirely using the Kostura cannon.

Imo one or more of the factions should get mines that can be layed out in the middle of phase lanes and do minimal damage, but drag ship out of phase space too.

I'm not positive, but I believe he was speaking of bypassing the planet, not the mines specifically.

Well, the Vasari have unlimited mines, so they'll just spam them there too.

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Area was scouted but the fleet came out of phase on the other side of the phase line not the side the scout did.