TEC---> get 8 millitary labs to get full fleet power --> get 8 civillian to get production up

Vasari get 8 milli labs and your set

(the is ofc simplified but you get the gist)

8 Civic Labs

And yes, it is worth it, late game.  Early game, it will just cripple your economy before it pays off.  Unless you are lucky and no one bothers you.

but it is still extremely useful, giving ships at 60% of the cost and INSTANTLY!!    it really allows for fleet enhancement in large maps and gives an instant defence force against raiding parties.  like the thrice-be-damned TEC rebel passive ability.

I disagree whole-heartedly.  I am in a game right now where it is very beneficial for me.  This is usually the case in larger maps.  Once you have it researched to level 2, you get 7-10 ships per use.  Usually I get 4-5 Ska Enforcers and 2-3 Lan Carriers. 

Let's add those prices up.  for each Ska Enf it costs 150 met/110 cry and for each Carrier it costs 160 met/140 cry.  So, if I get 4 enf and 3 carriers, that is a total of 1080 metal and 860 crystal for each one bought seperately.  By using RA, I have successfully re-inforced my fleet in juat a few seconds for a very small of the fraction of the price than building the ships individually and then having to wait a certain amount of time for each ship to build.

Other pluses are that you get an instant phase gate between any planets that have the Stabilizer in.  Also, you can use RA for each Stabilizer.  For instance, you have 4 Stabilizers...you can use each one in succession...1, 2, 3, 4, and have an instant small fleet of 28-40 ships and also with a great balance of ships in that small fleet.

At some point, you are gonna tech up to 8 labs any way, you just might do it a little quicker to get to RA, if that's how you choose to go.  I think that it is way worth the effort in the long run on a larger map.  And the money you save to use it for a re-inforcement of your fleet, instead of building 7 individual ships will soon pay off the difference of what it cost to get to have the ability to use RA.

Hope that made sense.

If you take my post #8 and Orodum's post #9, they are pretty one and the same.  If 2 people are saying the same thing, then you would think that there is something of value in using this ability.

I also disagree.

Another key factor that you are missing is:  you get high level ships that you did NOT pay to research.  You can actually get by with only 1 military lab, and 8 civilian labs, and still have a very strong mixed fleet including tier 5 HC's.  (The money saved on not researching each of these ship types, alone can just about pay for RA).

well... you would say that 'twas overpowered in the feedback section, but here you would try to convince people not to use it, bcuz you couldn't beat it.  If you were an Advent/TEC player.

as far as i know, it gives you 2, but you probably only had researched the first level of it.

Why would you have 2 in the same well?  That makes absolutely no sense. to me.  I do know personally (I did it last night) that you can have multiple Stabilizers in seperate wells and use them all at once and get 7-10 ships per at RA level 2.  This was in v1.12.  I then moved all 37 ships to the furthest stabilizer out (the one closest to my fleet) and had them join my attacking Armada within a couple of minutes of all of them being summoned.  They joined a fleet of 5 caps and roughly 20 carriers, 15 Ska Enf., at least 10 sentinels, 10 kanraks, and 10 Ravastra Skirmishers.

Very useful if you ask me.

I haven't had more than one in a well, either.  it's just not worth the tactical slots or the creds.  esp since once i have it, i have enough planets that I activate them all once and I have a fleet as large or larger than any other player's.

I can understand the thought behinds having two in the same well in order to get more ships there quicker, but then the 2nd stabilizer provides no extra benefit besides using the RA ability.  I would think you would put it in another star close to the original star in order to at least get some other use out of it.  As Orodum said it uses too many slots and is too expensive to build to just throw two in the same well.

Did you have enough open fleet slots?  I am assuming that you did.

But I learned the hard way on this point.  I had my phase gates set to auto-cast (RA).  And it used up/filled up all my fleet slots, and kept on charging me for activating RA (once I had enough crystal), even tho it didn't create ANY new ships!  Because I hadn't researched higher amounts of fleet yet. (I think the old RA would give you unlimited fleet, despite what fleet level you had researched).

[PS. I thot the cooldown was 10 minutes, not 15].

if you stagger them, they should work.  i mean, hit one, wait til 30 seconds after the ships arrive, then hit the other.  then you wouldn't have to wait for the cooldown, and you would get 2 RAs.  but it's only theory