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Entrenchment Update News?

January 13, 2009 4:19:52 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire ForumsSins of a Solar Empire Forums

I installed Entrenchment, and I have to say I like some of it, but it's still a Beta, so there are obviously some bugs.  I uninstalled Entrenchment so that my friends and I could continue having fun with the vanilla version of the game without the AI going crazy with Mines and ruining the game.

 

I'm anxious to re-try the Beta of Entrenchment as soon as a new version comes out with some fixes.

 

Hey Stardock, any idea when we can expect a new version of the Beta to download?

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Reply #1 January 13, 2009 6:25:14 PM
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2009.

 

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Reply #2 January 13, 2009 6:46:17 PM
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If everything holds true to what the devs are hoping...should be an update for it on Thursday of this week (the 15th).

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Reply #3 January 13, 2009 6:47:02 PM
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and you know you can have the v1.12 installed alongside of entrenchment so that you don't have to keep un-installing and installing.

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Reply #4 January 14, 2009 6:28:13 PM
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That would be perfect, the 15th, I have friends comming up that would love to help playtest via my lan.  Last time they were over, the mines put them off playing, but I'm betting that will be better with the next update.

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Reply #5 January 14, 2009 8:47:33 PM
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Can you explain how I can have both the Beta Expansion and the regular game installed at the same time?  In Impulse I only see one thing or the other.

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Reply #6 January 14, 2009 9:04:07 PM
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Quoting Murrdox,
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Can you explain how I can have both the Beta Expansion and the regular game installed at the same time?  In Impulse I only see one thing or the other.

from my understanding you just copy the whole sins 1.12 folder and paste it somewhere else. when you upgrade to entrenchment, only the original get updated, the copied version stays the same and you are free to use it.

haven't tried it myself and am too weary to uninstall/ reinstall everything to do it, but it should work.

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Reply #7 January 14, 2009 9:04:48 PM
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If entrenchment is installed atm... uninstall it, then make sure regular sins is up to date and working - copy that directory folder to a different location and rename it, then you can re-install/install entrenchment again.  2 shortcuts, 1 from each directory. Takes up twice the hd space tho.

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Reply #8 January 14, 2009 9:33:54 PM
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Yeah - as said above- patch to 1.12, copy that folder somewhere else so you can play vanilla 1.12 and then upgrade to entrenchment.... works fine for me

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Reply #9 January 14, 2009 9:34:32 PM
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Such a silly work around.  I wish stardock or IC or whoever is responsible for handling this part of the process would allow you to start either game without this mess.  Seeing as its 'easy' for someone to manually do it,  why can't it just be the default?

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Reply #10 January 14, 2009 9:47:12 PM
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Entrenchment should be added as a mod imo, taking up twice the hd space so you can run both isnt logical.

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Reply #11 January 14, 2009 10:35:57 PM
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Such a silly work around. I wish stardock or IC or whoever is responsible for handling this part of the process would allow you to start either game without this mess. Seeing as its 'easy' for someone to manually do it, why can't it just be the default?

The reason is because it is a BETA. The final game will allow you to enable Entrenchment if wanted, or play vanilla Sins. And a game will disable Entrenchment if a player lacks it. I'm not 100% sure if you can disable it if all players have it, but assume you can. But that functionaity is a way away. So until they tell you it isn't a BETA, you can't ask for it as they are working on more fundamental things.

Entrenchment should be added as a mod imo, taking up twice the hd space so you can run both isnt logical.

Except that Entrenchment changes some basic fundamental things, so that doesn't quite work. The final version should be such that they are fully compatable.

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Reply #12 January 15, 2009 10:00:11 AM
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As Hack said, this will be fixed once Entr. is out of beta.  you will be able to easily switch between the two.

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Reply #13 January 15, 2009 12:25:19 PM
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Nifty!  Thanks for the info, I'll do that.

 

It is slightly annoying to do I suppose... but it is BETA afterall.  It would be kind of silly for Ironclad to waste time making it easy to swap out the expansion for the vanilla game when they really need to be devoting all that time and effort to polishing the expansion.

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Reply #14 January 15, 2009 4:29:29 PM
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Longing for a beta update right now, curious to see how IC has handled the issues in the current build. (0.91.002)

Any more intel regarding this, anyone?

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Reply #15 January 15, 2009 4:31:52 PM
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I know nothing. hope they get it out soon, but it takes as much times as it takes.

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Reply #16 January 15, 2009 4:42:53 PM
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The newest update was supposed to be done today...if everything went according to plans over at IC.

I'm guessing it still isn't up as no one has posted anything on it yet.  I'm still at work and haven't had the chance to check Impulse to see if it's up or not.

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Reply #17 January 15, 2009 4:58:57 PM
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Just tried a bit ago, nope.  Maybe not today. or this week even. 

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Reply #18 January 15, 2009 5:40:55 PM
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It's like, I don't care if it takes a week, month, or year to come out.  I just want to know WHEN it comes out, because I don't like checking 10 times a day to see if it's there or not.

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Reply #19 January 15, 2009 5:58:12 PM
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The last time they gave something a release date, there was much complaining when it was late.

 

Don't expect them to set themselves up for that again.

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Reply #20 January 15, 2009 6:01:51 PM
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exactly...peeps put too much into that and then expect it to happen exactly then.  sometimes things happen to where they cannot meet that exact day and time.

I'd rather it be done right and come out a day or two later than to have them rush it.

 

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Reply #21 January 15, 2009 8:04:36 PM
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I always give few days to a week lee way when waiting for updates

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Reply #22 January 15, 2009 8:17:16 PM
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I was hoping for the update today myself, I am tired of only playing against TEC AI's to prevent the mine overload from ruining the late game.  But I agree, it takes as long as it takes.  I just hope it dosen't take too long.

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Reply #23 January 16, 2009 9:59:15 AM
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Well, actually the exact words of the dev were that they would try to have something for us by the end of this week.  They never said that it would be by Thursday exactly.  I believe that it was another user said that they would expect it to be by Thursday just going off of what has happened in the past.

So, long story short...let's wait and see if there is something by the end of the day today.  (anxiously keeps fingers crossed)...

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Reply #24 January 16, 2009 10:32:30 AM
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Yarlen had no new news last night on IRC. Not this week

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Reply #25 January 16, 2009 10:37:34 AM
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Quoting Annatar11,
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Yarlen had no new news last night on IRC. Not this week

oohhh. too bad. *mustnotrantmustnotrant*. oh well ...

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