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Shadowhal
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'place starbase' ability should deduct cost instantly

February 6, 2009 4:35:46 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire ForumsSins of a Solar Empire Forums

just like with buildings, I would like the cost to be deducted when I place the thing, not when it actually starts construction. its nice to have the money a few seconds longer, but I find myself always watching 'do I leave enough creds/metal/crystal for the starbase to be built right away?'. sure, it queues the order, so once the resources are there it starts. but I'd still find it easier to just place it, be sure it was going to be built as soon as the constructor goes there, forget about the thing and move on. my mind is occudied with enough things already in the game.

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sirphoenix
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Reply #1 February 6, 2009 2:33:14 PM
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there is a flaw in your thinking.

if you're money gets reduced right when you click there is still a chance your constructor gets destroyed or disabled on the way to his building position.

so in that case the game has to refund you which I think is currently not what the engine can do without some changes to the code.

 

i like the way it currently is, it also remembers your order so as soon as you got the cash your base gets build even if it takes 2 hours

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pek1999
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Reply #2 February 6, 2009 4:25:39 PM
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All the other structures & ships will de-allocate the cost if you decide to stop the production before it finishes.   The starbase should be that way, too.  I have done that a lot, started the starbase, then forgot to make sure I have credits/resources left to build it when the (slow) conectructor gets to the point I wanted the starbase built.  Then I wonder why the constructor is just sitting there.

 

pek

 

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Reply #3 February 6, 2009 4:29:40 PM
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yup. and after all, the constructor is very expensive. I wouldn't want it to sit around waiting for the resources to come in. can't unconstructed buildings also be destroyed? in any case, if it's possible to get the refund if it is destroyed before deployment fine. otherwise ... maybe bad luck then. it still seems less trouble for me.

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Reply #4 February 6, 2009 4:54:35 PM
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the difference here is that the starbase is not a structure and placing it is an ability, you're not building something for the planet but more like a special ship type.

 

yes you can stop structures from beeing build and get your money back.

but if you lose your planet before they could be build you will lose all your ressources.

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Reply #5 February 6, 2009 5:57:01 PM
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Quoting sirphoenix,
reply 4
the difference here is that the starbase is not a structure and placing it is an ability, you're not building something for the planet but more like a special ship type.

 

yes you can stop structures from beeing build and get your money back.

but if you lose your planet before they could be build you will lose all your ressources.

look, I'm just saying I prefer it to be in line with the other things.  if it's technically not possible, or only at undue effort, then fine, so be it. otherwise I'd like it changed for the reasons put forward. if I place it I want it built asap and I don't want to take a close eye resources left, I have better things to do.

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Reply #6 February 6, 2009 6:05:33 PM
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and i'm just saying you're comparing two different things, a starbase is just not a structure like e.g. a military lab

 

as i recall it in beta 1 the starbase would be build instantly on the spot where the constructor-ship was at that moment.

at some point for some reason that was changed to the current system.

my guess it was because of the space requirements of the starbase not beeing checked correctly with the old method.

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