Might need a bit of tweaking then or an option to disable ai surrendering as they seem to love to roll over and die on larger maps with thier entire infrastructure, planets and fleets completely intact after this latest patch.

oh man, this is very irritating!  I was playing a huge 28 star game with 10 AI and just as we start getting into battles, I find that two of them are already surrendered, even thou they still had a full star system to themselves.

wth, Aliens are wimps now....

I don't know if this is a bug or not, but...

I had an allied AI surrender to the enemy, as they were being ripped apart while I was occupied in an all-out confrontation with the most powerful enemy AI. After my victory, I started to regain the planets occupied by the enemy, including those my surrendered ally had. I finally recolonized a planet in which most of the defenses of my ally AI remained intact... And saw that the number of logistics/tactical slots was down to zero! ALthough there was an allied starbase half-upgraded, along with four hangars, I could build a full number of defenses in the gravity well, as well as a starbase of my own. And the allied fighters responded to attacks by the enemy as effectively as my own! That planet became a defensive Juggernaught, and nothing could get through its well- giving me the chance to use my entire forces to overwhelm the enemy AIs from the opposite side.

So... If the slots of planets drop to zero again when the AI that occupied them surrenders, shouldn't any surviving structures become inactive (let's say "abandoned")? Is this a bug, or an intentional feature?

I seem to be running into this as well. The AI will surrender even though it is not in that bad of a position.

A couple of times the AI had more planets, resources, and ships than I did.

Something just does not seem right.

I must agree with the above poster and say I loved "Galactic Civilizations" way of handling a player surrender. Just switching everything over to another player's control/color would be awesome!

I had the same experience with a surrendering AI yesterday. I was beating to 2 unfair AI's to the stonage, when the last remaining AI, my former ally turned on me and then surrendered just before I attacked one of it's planets. That was a real dealbreaker, since they had a substancial amount of colonies left and a modest fleet. I bet there was a few more interresting hours of gameplay left, but the AI gave up too soon.

I couldn't agree more.  It's hard to have a nice, long epic FFA battle when weak, but still viable AI, with planets and fleets, decide to go home early.

On multiplayer (which I don't play), I understand that when a human quits mid-game an AI takes over -- perhaps there should be a replacment AI to take over when an AI prematurely surrenders in single player

I said this in the other thread as well, but I think changing the AI's just being "defeated" to offering to surrender would solve this.

The AI could say, "OK, we give, we surrender" and the player could choose whether or not to accept the surrender. If you refuse, you could still grind them to a pulp.

You can do that right now by clicking "keep playing," but their defense is completely passive, and its not very satisfying.

I was suprised to see something like this on a 4v4 game. The advent faction I had been fighting showed as broken in the diplomacy screen. In reviewing the replay I think what triggered the surrender was on my front they lost a cap ship. But they were also fighting another AI and lost 2 cap ships to them. They lost their 3 cap ships at the same time and gave up. They had 5 planets left.