Well I actually end up with 16. 2 fleets consisting of 3 Marza's, 1 Kol, 2 Dunov's, 1 Sova, 1 Akkan. 30 cobalts, 30 Javelis, 35 Hoshikos, 15 Garda, 8 Ceilio (sp?), and 6-8 Kodiaks (rough estimate). It works well for the usual comp stomp for me. Usually only loose four or five ships when trying to kill the snorkulus SB. Just works for me, the problem I am running into is that most of the AI will only build 2 or 3 capitals, sometimes only 1. This is on a map with 104 planets and everything set to hard. The scout autoattack seems to occur when a scout is built in a gravity well that still has mines in it and other scouts already set to auto-attack. It comes out with auto-attack on and it cannot be turned off. Thanks -J