made a new thread for this, the old was impossible to find anything usefull in.

Aw I thought a new thread meant a release

Looks quite good, but I think that there is a lot of ideas of what unique is. Any change you will cover that more?

This mod looks soooo beautiful. i have been tracking this mod now for what feels like years. I think it has been...everytime though i cant find a release version for any games. even though im on the DoV members list

Bookmark for self, because this mod is absolutely awesome epic win.

"I don't grin like a moron, I grin like a sociopath."

I've not read your whole history. I will say it is very long and appears to have been laboured over for many long nights (and many more cups of coffee... or beer... vodka... Frankenwein... etc) and as a writer, I applaud your work. But (bearing in mind I've not read your entire history), as a German historian, I am curious as to how you have created the GGR, or I imagine as it is more properly abbreviated, GDR-- Großer Deutsche Reich... conveniently, the same initials in English of the DDR, or former "East Germany". *Ahem* That aside, the GDR/GGR does not use puppet states? I can only assume the alien war must have dramatically changed Nazism and the administrative format of the Third German Empire.

 

I myself worked up the original backstory for the mod, based on the WorldWar series by Harry Turtledove, but substancially altered to work better as an RTS setting. (and it was long nights with Soda Water). However the wiki has grown to over 500 pages since I started it, and we've had around 100 contributors each adding their own content and articles, so I can't personally give you their reasoning behind every detail.

That said I know we have tried to tone down the German side from the ideology of the Nazi party to a more Prussian-esque faction. I believe in our timeline Hitler and much of the German leadership was killed in 1944.

While this looks like a very fun mod and I likely will try it out (all depends on if I happen to stumble onto the forum and see its release). I just have to question your characterization (which, ultimately, doesn't really change gameplay) of one, maybe two factions. Nazism is not a safe subject to dabble in. I will assume that the space commies are descended from their viscous and brutal (often more so than the Nazis) commies under Joseph Stalin.

Yeah thats a good point to raise, doing anything related to WWII does bring up a bunch of questions as to how you want to portray Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union so we're tried to go as neutral as possible. We've even had some great folks from Germany work with us as to make sure the mod dosn't feature anything offensive. Basically, if your familiar with the tone of Company of Heroes or Men of War your familiar with the tone of DoV.

Hope this awnsers your questions, and hope you have fun playing DoV when we eventually release.

Were you just stating the obvious or did you miss all those paragraphs of text explaining how the mod takes place in an alternate history.

Its WWII in space guys, this isn't rocket appliances.

No, I didn't miss all those paragraphs, but evidently you missed the part I quoted in my post.

Sorry, mate, I must have misinterpreted "I believe in our timeline Hitler and much of the German leadership was killed in 1944" to mean pretty much what it said.

Thanks for your reply, sir. I do enjoy Company of Heroes, actually. But they avoid the whole sketchy area of Nazism by using the Iron Cross and using things like Knights Cross Winners (who look kinda like Waffen-SS and since they get the MP44, a new weapon at the time of CoH's time frame, I always think of them as SS). The thing that irks me after peeking at your wiki page for the GDR (my abbreviation of the GGR; again for anyone reading this and not read my previous post, I know GDR is the English abbreviation for the former East Germany) is that Waffen-SS and other "Nazi" items are mentioned specifically. I think it also listed the Waffen-SS as a part of the Wehrmacht (which it was not; SS were not military, but party military. If you were Waffen-SS, you were a Nazi. If you were Wehrmacht, you were not necessarily a Nazi, might just have been a soldier).

I've not read the works which have inspired you, nor do I think it would be reasonable to completely rewrite much of your work, but if it were reasonable, I'd say you've missed quite of bit of that good ol'fashioned Prussian Conservatism and Militarism Paint all the ships Prussian Blue and slap a Hohenzollern Eagle on the side of everything! Go for superior discipline and not numbers. While Voltaire did say that "some states have an army, the Prussian Army has a state" and this might imply a large army, it was only such in the sense of proportions: compared to similar sized states, their Army was fricken HUGE. Bear in mind I am thinking of the time of Friedrich II der Große, when Prussia was quite small.

Regardless, I'll look forward to using the Germans if I stumble upon your release, as I said earlier (I don't visit these forums often). By chance will the Russians and Germans speak Russian/German? I assume that you have German speakers on your team, based on "We've even had some great folks from Germany work with us as to make sure the mod dosn't feature anything offensive". It'd be fricken sweet if they spoke German and Russian The cheesey accents in CoH get tiresome, you see. German CoH sounds infinitely better (at least for the Germans; never heard their Allied voices).

Anyway, happy modding!

~Tyndaria

Maybe if it's easily possible (I'm no modder) you could have optional files for either, similar to the optional dynamic movement used in other mods. Swap out a couple of files and bam! The Germans are saying "Jawohl Herr Kapitän!" and so forth *insert Silent Hunter III German dialogue here*. But I don't know if that would be simple. Regardless of how you go, I just hope they don't sound like stereotypical angry "Nazis". I'm glad that CoH didn't go that route for most units. Grenadiers sound like soldiers, similar to the American or British units.

The Eastern Front modders (CoH mod) have gone an interesting route: they use the Russian sound files for the regular American and British units in their mod. Unless you understand Russian, it sounds awesome. Actually, it sounds awesome either way, even if the T-34s are claiming to be M4 Shermans!

If you go the English route, you should sneak in a little bit of "I know NOTHING!" and "Schultz! You dummkopf!" ..... Okay, perhaps not. It would be silly in space. But hilarious nevertheless.

~Tyndaria

which one? Theres a direct link to the main page in the OP.

Regarding the Germans,

I've spent a fair bit of time working on the Wiki myself, and I would hazard to say that the Germans have received less attention than most of the other factions present in the game universe.

Unlike the Soviet Union, the Democratic Federation, or even the Empire of Japan and the Tawhid (Islamic state), their "origin story," as to why things are the way they are is largely lacking. For whatever reason, the popular focus has been, at least with the regulars, on the USSR or numerous minor factions which won't actually appear in the Sins mod.

In the future, this will likely change, but with only 5 or so regular contributors, it may be some time before the Reich is "up to snuff."

I would encourage anyone with an interest to take a look at the German wiki pages and offer some suggestions. We could always use more slave labour, err, I mean productive volunteers.