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Root on windows 7???? HOW!!!!

By on May 7, 2010 9:18:55 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Awac A

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Seriously. Im sick and tired of the security scheme on windows 7.

Im running Win7 Enterprise. Do anyone have any idea how i log in as root? basicly i want full access to my own computer. i wanna be able to delete system files. format the hardrive run virus keyloggers trojans. I wanna be able to move/delete/rename/overrite files at my own will!!!!!

No logging in as Administrator dont work, adding my own user to the administrator group dont work. Basicly it just seems like this pice of crap game out of beta. Im thinking of going back to XP again. I have so many problems with this.

No logging in as Administrator dont work, adding my own user to the administrator group dont work. Basicly it just seems like this pice of crap came out of beta. Im thinking of going back to XP again. I have so many problems with this.

I miss linux.....

And befor anyone says "you shouldnt run as admin" well thats not for you to decide. I fully understand the risk.

Ive been getting so many "You need to be administrator to perform this task" "You need permission from Everyone to perform..." "You cant do this" "You cant to that". Sadly im working for a company that develop programs for MS office so i have no way around windows...

 

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May 8, 2010 12:33:11 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Edited due to possible infringements on employers computers.

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May 8, 2010 11:10:32 AM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

 Hope you aren't doing this on company pcs

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May 8, 2010 11:23:57 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Ive been getting so many "You need to be administrator to perform this task" "You need permission from Everyone to perform..." "You cant do this" "You cant to that". Sadly im working for a company that develop programs for MS office so i have no way around windows...

If it's a work computer then you 'should' be out of luck with getting advice on how it is done.

Companies get pretty shirty about who does what to whose computer, how and why...

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May 8, 2010 11:35:55 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

There's a reason for all that security stuff bro.

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May 8, 2010 11:38:19 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Sadly im working for a company that develop programs for MS office so i have no way around windows...

 Based on this sentence, I'd say he certainly is doing this on work computers.  Not cool.  Good luck job hunting!

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May 9, 2010 1:05:28 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

dunno what you mean about "missing" Linux. Same issue. sudo this sudo that...

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May 9, 2010 4:43:36 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

on linux i can log in as root when i need to perform tasks that affect the system. On windows i cant evern copy a dll into the windows folder.

And seriously im not a complete idiot so i know that "security stuff is there for a reason bro" maybe thats why i ´have a admin account and my normal restricted user account. But when i cant even perform admin tasks on my admin account it starts to piss me off.

And trust me im not going job hunting over this? are you stupid? I want to be able to log in as admin and have full access to everything so i can move some files around. Win7 wont let me. Is it a security risk? ofc it is but i happen to trust the suppliers of those files i want to move its that simple.

Just like you trust Microsoft wont steal your home banking info which they easly could.

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May 9, 2010 5:09:52 AM from GalCiv II Forums GalCiv II Forums

I guess it might be a trust issue.

You seem so bent on changing the core system files, and it might seem to some that you are simply a hacker trying to gain access.

Yet, you come to a simple gamer site to gain this knowledge? Why?

Why not read a book that deals with the inner workings of the OS in question? You can read, and comprehend what you read, yes? Or is it that you lack the knowledge and skills required, through a lack of education and intelligence?

 

It must be frustrating that you can't easily hack the most used OS any more. Maybe you should stick with Linux, after all.

 

 

And please - learn correct spelling, punctuation and grammar. All those mistakes simply make you appear even more incompetent.

 

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May 9, 2010 5:44:09 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I understand the frustration with Windows 7 (and Vista).

I hate the start menu layout, so I like to have the start menu as a fly-out taskbar toolbar. For this you have to add the start menu 'programs' folder to your taskbar as a toolbar.

Real easy in XP, but in 7 you do not have permission to access the start menu... You cant add entries, create folders, organise your shortcuts, or, add it to the taskbar.

Each time I install 7 I have to wrestle with permissions and sharing just to get access to my own start menu - effin' ridiculous.

This is a clean install and not yet finished, but this is the menu I'm referring to:-

As for why you want access, that's another matter. My need is for usability.

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May 9, 2010 6:44:40 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

you can still use cmd.exe... do a search for it, right-click > Run As Administrator. If you like Linux, you'll love that. It puts you into a su terminal and you can move files and create directories and whatnot to your heart's content. 

I also have to Take Ownership at work so maybe you should do that instead. 

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May 9, 2010 7:54:34 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

try this >>>

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/add-take-ownership-to-explorer-right-click-menu-in-vista/

 

the folder(s) you want to have ownership of all you have to do is right click on it then click on  TAKE OWNER SHIP thats after you install the reg file.

 

there is the manual way but why take 10x as long... 

 

 

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May 9, 2010 8:31:32 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums



I hate the start menu layout, so I like to have the start menu as a fly-out taskbar toolbar. For this you have to add the start menu 'programs' folder to your taskbar as a toolbar.

Fuzzy,

  take a look at I.R. brainiac's post here it might be what your looking for or close..

http://forums.wincustomize.com/380167

 

or it maybe something you already know

 

Real easy in XP, but in 7 you do not have permission to access the start menu... You cant add entries, create folders, organise your shortcuts, or, add it to the taskbar.
  for this one take a look at my Reply #12  the link

you can also move the stuff around on the all program in start menu EX I have all my spy and virus programs in one folder.. so when I moved ccleaner to my Defenders folder I did NOT delete the ccleaner folder just renamed it to lets say Utilities and you can do all that right in the start menu but yes it is a PAIN in the ASS...   if you do it the way of TAKE OWNER SHIP you can do it from the start menu Folder  but not every thing is in the lets say your Fuzzy is the name u use for user name of PC some may be in Public, all users etc so you would have to TOS of all then move them and make new folders... BUT CAUTION is needed when moving stuff around in that folder.. when I did it this way some stuff was not showing up  thats way I now do it the PAIN in the ASS way ....  hope this is close to what you want ... 

 

EDIT  oh this might help to

http://www.startmenu7.com/

I have not tried it yet so I can't vouch for it  he has a free and a Paid version  

 

 

 

 

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May 9, 2010 9:22:13 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Well i just posted here because it was the only board i knew had a personal computing section. Its not about hacking my system or anything. Its about i often need to move some files around. Be it dll files i used for programming or other stuff.

I understand alot of people posted in this thread no nothing about development but i can tell you that moving files around is a common task  and have nothing to do with hacking, cracking or anything else.

But ill give up and will look for help else were since here people think that taking control over ones own computer is a serious crime.

All i was asking for was to have the same power as Admin in Win7 as i did in XP.

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May 9, 2010 10:08:58 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

All i was asking for was to have the same power as Admin in Win7 as i did in XP.

Awac A

I gave you the info you need in my reply 12

 

 

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May 9, 2010 10:18:04 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Boot up linux, mount windows harddrive, pure win.

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May 9, 2010 11:44:15 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

But ill give up and will look for help else were since here people think that taking control over ones own computer is a serious crime.

You did not clarify that it was specifically your PERSONAL computer...and NOT your employer's.

If it's your own then you are free to alter permissions/access...just as you can in any OS...but if it's a work computer - owned by your work then you won't be 'free'.

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May 9, 2010 1:56:07 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

You did not clarify that it was specifically your PERSONAL computer...and NOT your employer's.

jafo but he did

basicly i want full access to my own computer.

 

 

 

 

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May 9, 2010 3:30:26 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Real easy in XP, but in 7 you do not have permission to access the start menu... You cant add entries, create folders, organise your shortcuts, or, add it to the taskbar.

I can add entries and delete entries, create folders and organize stuff in my taskbar menu in 7 just like I could in XP. 7 does not ask me for permissions and I don't have to set up permissions to do it.

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May 9, 2010 3:48:01 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

 Sadly im working for a company that develop programs for MS office so i have no way around windows...

"My own computer" conflicts with that statement. "My" can mean "the one that I use" rather than "the one that I own". If he uses the one at work it is "his", but it isn't a computer that he owns and should alter however he wants. 

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Plus, we don't "no" about development and we are retarded lololollolololololol

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He also seems not to know about cmd.exe despite his extensive usage of linux! 

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May 9, 2010 5:08:18 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

I do know the cmd -.- christ.

DisturbedComputer thanks for trying to help with the take ownsership but i have already tried this.

And yes it is a computer owned by the workplace. And im free to alter it any way i like. Mostly though i just wanned to sort out my folders used for source control since the ones under my user folder uses up to much path space so giving my compiler a hard time since it only works with 255 chars it seems. But moving my code folder to C:\ gives me hell with Win7 apprently i need permission from Everyone who ever that is. I have no such user or group on my computer.

And seriously guys not sure what reality you live in. But i work for a small(10 people) company we dont have a IT support section that handles all our computers.

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May 9, 2010 11:09:46 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

symlink? 

or "Directory Junction" if you want to be proper. 

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May 10, 2010 1:00:59 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

And seriously guys not sure what reality you live in.

OK, so the  Mythbusters might reject your reality and adopt their own...but Ownership and responsibility for Business computers resides with the Company Owner/CEO so in THE 'reality' advice as to how to alter HIS/HER systems can only be given to HIM/HER or at HIS/HER specific request, not yours.

Not knowing who you are or your motives for wanting to "format the hardrive run virus keyloggers trojans" means that ANY responsible person WILL NOT assist your attempts to alter/adversely impact upon a system which is NOT yours to alter.

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May 10, 2010 1:58:30 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Installing keyloggers or trojans on a work machine is a great way to lose a job I would think.

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May 10, 2010 8:29:11 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Ok let me cut it out. I dont have intentions of installing keylogger or trojans on my work pc. Basicly i was trying to get the point across that "Im aware of the inherient riscs of running as admin i accept those risk... now windows plz let me do what i want to do". Basicly all i wanned to do was copy some files to my C:\ root dir. It wouldnt let me. I got annoyed.

But serisouly like i said its a small company if i had to talked to the CEO everytime i wanned to do something that needed admin rights i think he would get pretty annoyed. Besides he knows very little about computers in general so he wouldnt have a clue. Because we are a small company we have a very pragmatic approch to alot of stuff. So we dont have a "head of IT" who run all our computers. Each employee installs his own software etc. Again because we are a small company we put alot of trust in each other. So we dont have strict policies on alot of things because we count on the individuals sense of reason. But i guess that if you ever only worked in big companies your might not be aware of how stuff is run in smaller ones.

But anyway i solved my problem by installing a clean wmware image of my dev enviorment got things working. So i think it was maybe just a bug.

Thanks to the people who tried to help. And thanks for the people taking the internet to serious and giving me good laughs.

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