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Rebellion is Upon Us: The Next Chapter of Sins of a Solar Empire Unveiled at GDC 2011

By on March 1, 2011 12:50:06 PM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

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The time of Diplomacy is over. The length of the war and differing opinions on what should be done to bring the war to an end has led to a splintering of the groups involved. The controlling powers-that-be have depleted arsenals and seemed to have exhausted all efforts of diplomacy. Trapped in a stalemate, sub-factions have rebelled and broken off the main alignments. Rebellion is upon us.

The exciting next chapter in the awesome Sins of a Solar Empire universe has arrived. A full-fledged expansion to the original,Sins of a Solar Empire: Rebellion draws you even deeper into the galactic struggle for supremacy with appealing new factions, terrifyingly cool new ships of all sizes, enhanced lighting and particle effects for increased visual pleasure and all-new victory conditions.

“Rebellion is the first stand-alone expansion to the Sins of a Solar Empire universe,” said Brian Clair, director of publishing for Stardock. “Sins of a Solar Empire: Rebellion will add many new ships, refresh the visuals and integrate Impulse::Reactor features to support achievements, multiplayer leagues and much more.”

In the original award-winning Sins of a Solar Empire, developed by Ironclad Games, you are the leader of one of three civilizations embroiled in a galactic war, fighting for survival of your entire race against relentless foes. Your success will depend on your ability to manage your empire and command your vast fleets of starships to victory. Players will colonize new worlds, develop extensive trade networks, conduct research, fortify their empires with powerful starbases and fleets of ships, plus control the galaxy using the unique diplomacy system that reacts dynamically to the players’ actions.

New features of Sins of a Solar Empire: Rebellion include:

    • New Factions: Players decide whether to become Loyalists or Rebels, which unlocks a unique new tech tree granting them new technologies and ship variants.
    • New Titan-class ships:  Massive warships for each race that dwarf capital ships, these deadly new monsters are capable of wiping out entire enemy fleets single-handedly.
    • New Capital Ships:  A new capital ship class arrives, giving players new strategic options.
    • New Corvette-class ships:  Small, highly maneuverable light ships that are adept at a variety of tasks.
    • Loyalist and Rebel versions of some of the existing Sins’ frigates and cruisers, each with their own unique strengths and weaknesses.
    • Updated lighting and particle effects for enhanced visuals.
    • New Victory Conditions to allow for more variety, differing strategies and shorter game sessions.
    • Additional capital ship ability levels, for greater strategic choice.
    • Impulse::Reactor support for chat, friends, achievements and more.

Keep up with Sins news at www.sinsofasolarempire.com.

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March 2, 2011 9:51:21 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Sweet, it's been so long since a fresh RTS I wanted to play came out.  As Tridus says, if they can get some more engine enhancements, and some special effect upgrades, in there it'll be good to go.  So when's it out?  This summer?  LATE 2010?! 

Quoting Island Dog,
From what I understand, a discount will be for Trinity owners.

 

What about those who bought all 3 parts seperately?  Costs the same as Trinity, no?

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March 2, 2011 10:48:28 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

There will be a discounted upgrade option for registered owners of Sins of a Solar Empire: Trinity or Sins of a Solar Empire: Diplomacy.

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March 2, 2011 11:55:21 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Great news. Have not been sinning for awhile.  Must start again.  Hopefully it will be ready at year end.

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March 2, 2011 5:56:25 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

what about those of us that have BOTH sins/entrenchment/diplomacy AND a trinity pack?

do we get double the discount?

harpo

 

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March 2, 2011 6:10:11 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

only if you buy it twice.

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March 2, 2011 6:17:19 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting Pbhead,
only if you buy it twice.

Buy a third and you can get triple the discount

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March 2, 2011 8:45:24 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

i would also like to see multithreading and 64 bit support; I have an 8GB 4 core machine and would like to use it to its full extent and have awesome battles with huge numbers of ships

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March 2, 2011 10:05:57 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting chaos_forge,
i would also like to see multithreading and 64 bit support; I have an 8GB 4 core machine and would like to use it to its full extent and have awesome battles with huge numbers of ships

I still think there are still too many 32-bit users out there to be able to really push a RTS to take advantage of 4GB+ RAM.  You could, but you'd lose a lot of customers.  Maybe in another year or so once XP has more or less become completely unsupported people will finally move on.

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March 3, 2011 3:14:10 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

At least make the LAA flag on by default. But supplying additional 64-bit exe's should be the norm by now.

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March 3, 2011 9:50:09 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting lbgsloan,

Quoting chaos_forge, reply 57i would also like to see multithreading and 64 bit support; I have an 8GB 4 core machine and would like to use it to its full extent and have awesome battles with huge numbers of ships
I still think there are still too many 32-bit users out there to be able to really push a RTS to take advantage of 4GB+ RAM.  You could, but you'd lose a lot of customers.  Maybe in another year or so once XP has more or less become completely unsupported people will finally move on.

you can still use the 32-bit engine for 32-bit users and then have a 64-bit version for 64-bit users. And there's nothing wrong with XP, I have 64-bit XP

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March 3, 2011 10:46:07 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/

37% polled using Win 7 64-bit, 56% using 2-cpu, 28% using 4GB Ram (no listing for more than 4GB of Ram).

how about get rid of the expansion poll and ask who uses 64-bit OS and 32-bit OS?  Would be interesting if StarClad let us upload our system specs.

 

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March 3, 2011 11:46:13 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Yay!

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March 4, 2011 12:22:21 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

lets see - yeah preorder- DONE!~

 

wIN 7 64B-bit, 8 core, 9gb of ram, 2gb of video ram - my machine needs more sin

 

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March 4, 2011 9:44:01 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Guys, the engine for Sins started up in 2004. In order to make a 64-bit version, it would basically have to be re-done from scratch. It's not going to happen. Be realistic here.

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March 4, 2011 2:38:43 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting Annatar11,
Be realistic here.
Good luck with that.

 

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March 4, 2011 6:12:57 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Let's have a look...

Half life 2 was released on November 16, 2004 as a 32 bit version, on December 22, 2005, Valve released a 64-bit version.

A lot of games were updated to use 64 bit after release. I don't see that as much as a problem as updating to use (S)MP, as multiprocessing would be a real rewrite.

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March 4, 2011 7:14:04 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Yes, because SD has just as much money to throw at it as Valve does. Feel free to post a list of "a lot of games" that were updated, though.

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March 4, 2011 7:21:43 PM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

Quoting Annatar11,
Guys, the engine for Sins started up in 2004. In order to make a 64-bit version, it would basically have to be re-done from scratch. It's not going to happen. Be realistic here.

That would depend upon how it is written. It is possible to write code where the process of making it possible of upgrade to 64-bits would be minimal. But I take it they did not do so.

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March 4, 2011 11:12:49 PM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

I just pre-ordered and got the discount!!  I really don't think it matters what you have because I have the original, then bought the expansions when they came out. 

Can't wait to play it...

Wolverines Revenge

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March 5, 2011 3:06:39 AM from GalCiv II Forums GalCiv II Forums

Fantastic! Although I hope you will still devote time to support Diplomacy to make it even better.

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March 5, 2011 6:08:27 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Yes, because SD has just as much money to throw at it as Valve does. Feel free to post a list of "a lot of games" that were updated, though.

No need for sarcasm. Are you a developer? I am (not games though) and it is a design desicion how you program that defines how much effort it is later on to support 64 bit.

Some games (List from 2006!!):

http://fathersergio.wordpress.com/2006/01/21/the-64-bit-games-list/

 

I don't get why some of you try to defend design decisions of IC (and we all love IC) that were flat out wrong in the first place. Yes, it was sufficient for vanilla, even for entrenchment, but in Diplomacy you saw that it was no longer feasible. They implemented a new load-on-demand system now to keep mem usage down, but this will prohibit you still from adding very high res textures or many more models/effects/sounds... as you will get to the limit again sooner than you think. That might not be a concern for most of you users, but for us modders it is of utmost concern. We do want to create additional value for this game, but we need headroom. And I'm afraid that Rebellion is gonna ask for headroom itself, so there is less space left for us.

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March 5, 2011 3:50:42 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Awesome!!! Hope this new version will be as good or better than Entrenchment.

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March 5, 2011 9:27:30 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

well, to put it simply, "Go 64-bit or go home." pretty much sums it up. 

Can anyone from IC explain why SOASE'R will or won't be 64bit and 32bit?  It's not 'SOASE II', it's 'SOASE I.v' I'd like to hear from them right up front if it's 32-bit so I can kiss off all hopes of having large-scale 5+ additional race mods for Rebellion or total conversions with 5+ races.

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March 6, 2011 11:30:23 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting SemazRalan,
well, to put it simply, "Go 64-bit or go home." pretty much sums it up. 

Can anyone from IC explain why SOASE'R will or won't be 64bit and 32bit?  It's not 'SOASE II', it's 'SOASE I.v' I'd like to hear from them right up front if it's 32-bit so I can kiss off all hopes of having large-scale 5+ additional race mods for Rebellion or total conversions with 5+ races.
Cuz they'd like to release this some time this decade.

 

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March 7, 2011 8:19:14 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

It's not a "go 64 or go home", rather a recomendation that slowly becomes a requirement today. We have 2011 now. I got my first 64 bit machine 2004, that was 7 years ago.

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