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[SotC] Hiigaran - modding Info Help Please

By on September 6, 2011 5:33:14 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums External Link

myfist0

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I am importing Hiigaran and Vaygr Ships into Sins of the Creator and need some info on

  • What race copy is best fit (Advent, TEC or Vasari)
  • Weapon types
  • Any other info and lore for Hiigaran that would help fit into a massive universe

Please help a m0dder out. This is a huge project.

Testing new race model layout  . I will add the thumbnail images shortly.
This will be a basic template for all the race, at least until Rebellion.

SotC Hiigaran Model Line up

Click Image for Large View - Images from http://homeworld.wikia.com
Click Title for Ship Information - Info from http://shipyards.relicnews.com

Capital Ships


BATTLESHIP

CARRIER

SUPPORT

COLONY

SIEGE
         

 

Corvettes & Frigates

 


Scout

Light

LongRange

 Mine Layer

 
         

Colony

 Siege


AntiFighter

 
 

Cruisers


Carrier

Utility0

Utility1

Heavy

StarbaseConstructor

AntiModule

Envoy
     

Strike Craft


Fighter

Bomber
     

Civilian Structures


METALEXTRACTOR

FRIGATEFACTORY

COMBATLAB

TRADEPORT

CULTURECENTER

CRYSTALEXTRACTOR

CAPITALSHIPFACTORY

NONCOMBATLAB

REFINERY
 

Military Structures


DEFENSEGUN

HANGARDEFENSE

REPAIRPLATFORM

JUMPBLOCKER

SHIELDGENERATOR

CANNON

SPACEMINE

CAP1

CAP1
 

Star Base


Starbase1
       

Not on Page


Constructor

TradeShip

RefineryShip

Mine
 

 

 

 

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September 6, 2011 7:18:22 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Hiigaran would fit best as TEC were as the Vaygr would be a more closely match with the Vasari. As for Weapons pretty much everything from laser and railguns to missles and torpedio's I'll have to get back to you about the lore. Used to be some wedsites that had good info on the lore. Homeworld and homeworld II are some of my favorite games. Thankyou for createing and Alsome and huge mod.

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September 6, 2011 7:53:06 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Thanks   and your 1st karma kookie 

I am not sure how close to Homeworld I can make this. Take the AttackBomber scene above. If that small white area on the front is the pilot area than this ship is not a Sins Strikecraft as it is bigger than most Sins frigates. I might retexture to make it more the size of a single seat fighter/bomber.

Any suggestions?

 

EDIT : CREAP, still cant give karma with new website. Tried IE and Chrome. 

I owe you 1

 

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September 6, 2011 7:56:27 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Higaran use more Railguns, Pulsars, and Ion Cannons. Think the Torpedo frigate, and Destroyer are the only Higgy ships that use missiles. While the Vayger ships use less guns, and more missile attacks. Fighters, and Bombers are about the same for both sides. Vayger use a "lance fighter" which is a laser armed ship, and a laser corvette. Higgys got the gunship and pulsar vette.

BOTH factions would fit TEC. Since the differences in tech between the two factions are minimal. Vayger can only fit certain types of build mods on its carriers while the higgys can build anything up to a frigate with its carriers.

In Homeworld 1 the Kushan, and the Taidan were virtually identical, and almost evenly matched one for one. Each side had only one or 2 units that were "unique" to the faction.

When u gonna finish the SoA 2 UI? or did u give up on it?

Scale in HW is kinda messed up. The original Kushan MS was supposed to be like 5km from top to bottom, but the Pride of Higara is like 1/2 the size of the original mothership. Yet it pumps out ships twice the size of a Kushan carrier. Use your best judgement as far as scale goes.

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September 6, 2011 8:49:13 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

No problem with the Karma. Just glad to see someone trying to bring all the sci-fi races into one mod.

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September 6, 2011 8:59:21 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Karma shows up late.  Odds are you gave it to him just fine.

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September 6, 2011 9:24:22 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Well, I redone the texture so the ship is more of a Sins strikecraft but I will keep both scenes incase a Homeworld AttackBomber is supposed to be a frigate.

 

Quoting Major Stress,
When u gonna finish the SoA 2 UI? or did u give up on it?

Not given up yet but it might go farther if all the work I did on the sound, music, bugs, and UI was actually credited. I cant see spending all that time modding for your team when nobody can take the time to give me credit.

I am doing the UI for the Star Trek races also in my m0d so when I get to it I will prioritize what you guys need finished.

 

Quoting psychoak,
Karma shows up late.  Odds are you gave it to him just fine.

The window does not show up to type in the "Why Message". It is not working.

 

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September 6, 2011 11:09:55 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

I second Stalcore's suggestions, though Major Stress does have a valid point.

The Attack Bomber is just your average strike craft bomber to my knowledge. I can help with the lore aspect, because I am a major contributor on the Homeworld Wiki, among other wikis, and well versed on the universe in general.

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September 7, 2011 12:43:14 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

That sounds awesome Zeta. 

I will take whatever you can give me that can better Homeworld merging with Sins.

If you start to contribute I can give you access to pre-release models and other assets nobody will get until the m0d is completed. Want the Hiigaran Attack Bomber to replace the TEC bomber, just let me know.

 


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September 7, 2011 12:59:42 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Yo Fist0, if you can do a name mod for the ships, that will epic. Anyway I posted this on the Kol flipped thread. I am actually going to see if this game is available just so to play this mod, and now you doing one for Sins, that's pretty bad ass dude. Can't wait to see what you put out when it is ready. Here's the vid....

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September 7, 2011 1:02:17 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

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September 7, 2011 1:42:38 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting G_Bison,
Yo Fist0, if you can do a name mod for the ships, that will epic. Anyway I posted this on the Kol flipped thread. I am actually going to see if this game is available just so to play this mod, and now you doing one for Sins, that's pretty bad ass dude. Can't wait to see what you put out when it is ready. Here's the vid....

Don't get your hopes up. There certainly won't be an in game way to do that, unless IC lets us modify the source code eventually.

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September 7, 2011 1:52:41 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

I would love that custom names but Sins would require a separate -cl texture for every ship named and a UI to imprint the texture. For now contributors will be able to suggest standard names for the ship class like KOL on the texture. Like if Zeta writes me some lore for Homeworld with SotC I will name a capital ship Zeta 1127

I still need to work on the tangents. I am new to them and will need some experimenting. For now that attack bomber looks sweet in-game. 

 

 

EDIT: I think I will post that Battlecruser video on the Vaygr page next time it is updated. 

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September 7, 2011 6:26:32 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

My new TEC light frigate  . Just a tad bigger than the KOL

BTW, green is the team colour.

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September 7, 2011 8:46:27 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

My god man, that is a beautiful shot, the detail. Freakin sweet....Smiley

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September 7, 2011 3:27:58 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

I will see what I can do, but I am unable to play Sins at the moment, probably due to the video card switch, so I could play Battlefield 2, that I did.

I also know quite a bit about Star Wars and several other of the SotC races too, so I should be able to contribute something.

It is a shame that making Motherships and Carriers construct frigates and other larger ships, like they can in the Homeworld games, is very difficult if not impossible. Now, on the other hand, the Shipyard, from Homeworld 2, might be a good choice for one of or maybe even both of the ship factories.

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September 7, 2011 7:31:58 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting Zeta1127,
It is a shame that making Motherships and Carriers construct frigates and other larger ships, like they can in the Homeworld games, is very difficult if not impossible.

I have a theory on that, it might work OK  .

 

Just found my old HW2 disc and after a .Big pain in the ass with Relics .BIG files I have scooped the OST and voices.

My room is rumbling madly with the battle tracks now.   Absolutely awesome soundtrack. 

This is definitely being added to SotC -Favourite Audio

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September 7, 2011 7:40:30 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Sweet!! I am really looking forward to this mod. I like the Idea of the attack bomber as the strike bomber. I always thought that homeworld ships were some of best looking.

 

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September 7, 2011 8:51:05 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting myfist0,
Just found my old HW2 disc and after a .Big pain in the ass with Relics .BIG files I have scooped the OST and voices.

You wouldn't happen to have a link to that extractor that you used? I'm also having a nice big pain in the ass trying to get those opened up.

I also could help out with the Star Wars races, having some experience with 'em.

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September 7, 2011 9:09:17 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?105240-How-to-Extract-The-HW2-Music-and-Convert-to-WAV

Some of the links to the tools are broken but I just googled them. 

If you like ta save the hassle I am just tag editing then uploading to my secret stash. 

1st I saved as WAVs the converted to 192 kb/s mp3.

Quoting Lavo_2,
I also could help out with the Star Wars races, having some experience with 'em.

I need some lore written for how all the races meet, interact and current relationships. Maybe even a rough map of who is where in the VirtuVerse.

The lore problem I see being the biggest is all the earth civs (federation, EA, Stargete) 

How the hell do you write a story around that conundrum?

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September 7, 2011 9:14:26 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

the multiverse theory from stargate

infinite number of decisions resulting in infinite number of outcomes

some races were made in some universes some were not all the result of some super being such as the Q, the ancient/ori, or the first ones from b5 might wanna limit down the number of superbeings to fit with lore tho

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September 7, 2011 9:17:03 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting noing,
might wanna limit down the number of superbeings to fit with lore tho

Only 1, the Mephistopheles 

Sounds like a plan man.

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September 7, 2011 9:24:23 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

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September 7, 2011 9:33:41 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting myfist0,
Some of the links to the tools are broken but I just googled them.

Hate to be a bother, though do you have a link to any of those extractors? Googling seems to be producing a sea of dead links.

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September 7, 2011 10:05:33 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums
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Quoting myfist0,
Just found my old HW2 disc and after a .Big pain in the ass with Relics .BIG files I have scooped the OST and voices.

The original Homeworld music is good stuff too, some of my favorite stuff, especially the Adagio for Strings and the three battle musics, and I happen to have the GotY edition that came with the soundtrack!

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