but the guardian does scale better.
Granted this type of scale happens usually only in SP as no MP game I've ever played is willing to go that long.
Would love to see the guardian given tweaks to make it more of a mid-game as well as late game player. Perhaps a slight change to Repulsion where it only slows all ships but violently throws and damages a set # of frigates.
Played on the custom map sol vs. orion. I played it as both advent and vasari. I was facing 9 lvl 4 computers (the one above hard) allied against me. I played first as advent. I proceeded to quickly expand and eco up and build some starbases on the star in close formation. I built as large of a fleet as I could. The enemy ships didn't take too long to start rolling in, and once they did it was a straight long term attrition battle. I did this strategy for both advent and vasari. Neutral acquisition early on was a similar pace between the races thanks to the abundant nearby neutrals, but colonizing all the neutrals was in the end about two times as fast with the vasari (giving the vasari a sizeable early chunk of extra resources).
Advent starbases, with meteor, are still a crappy starbase. Its laughable to even compare them to the orkulus starbase anyways, but my starbases at my home star (sol) were all destroyed relatively easily by the oncoming enemy forces.
I stalemated around mars for a long time as advent, but in the end the advent fleet had nowhere near the firepower to deal with the enemy fleet.
Thats right, not enough boom. I could survive anything, but my dps as a fleet overall was kinda pathetic, when compared to that of the vasari fleet. In the end the war of attrition was slowly beating back my forces and I called the game as a loss.
I decided to restart the next day with a vasari game using the same game perameters as before.
Vasari outclassed the advent easily. In the time I was able to put up one advent starbase on my home star, as vasari i had easily put 4 orkulus and had upgraded all of their health by 1 upgrade. The firepower of the vasari fleet was in the area of about 3-4 times that of the advent fleet, and i would NEVER lose a ship...where as advent I would always have to replace a small amount of ships in every engagement.
the vasari outclassed the advent so clearly, with the same exact start, facing the same types of enemies. I would say that the vasari fleet is about 2-3 times stronger then the endgame advent fleet given a rough capability estimate of the two fleets.
Naturally this estimate isn't just based upon the one trial above .