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[Mod] Enhanced 4X Mod (for Diplomacy 1.37, Rebellion 1.1, updated 1/18/13)

Racial Abilities, Random Encounters, Heroes, Rebalanced Civic Mechanics and More!

By on December 26, 2011 11:53:14 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

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Sins of a Solar Empire is often described as a 4XRTS game, or a game that tried to merge the action and tactics packed gameplay of a Real time strategy game with the deep, complex, empire wide strategy of a 4X turn based game. Its up to debate whether Sins succeeded in this goal, but I think all can agree that of the 4Xs of "explore, expand, exploit, and exterminate", Sins is much more focused on the exterminate than on the other three.

This mod seeks to give more depth to the other 3Xs of the game by adding additional game elements or refining the existing ones to reward players who give more strategic thought to the non-combat side of the game. Combat will still be the center point of the game, but players will find that the non-combat options available will be much more rewarding and will need to put more thought into developing their economies. This mod will also attempt to address some other weaknesses of Vanilla Sins where possible, such as increasing race diversity or improving the AI. With version 1.1, the first step towards reworking the Diplomacy system has been released.

Features

Faction Diversity - Exploit all new racial bonuses to crush your enemies.

Hero Units - Lead your race's champions into battle with their powerful new abilities to base your strategies off of.

Random Encounters - Keep your eyes peeled when scouting, new challenges and opportunities await you in the depths of space.

Embassies and Espionage - Friend or Foe, interacting with other Empires will never be the same again.

Ship Upgrades - Customize your capitalships and titans with unique upgrades (Rebellion).

New Planets - Your Empire will never look the same again. Meticulously balanced for competitive play.

New Skyboxes - 12 unique skyboxes provide a fantastic backdrop to your conquest of space (Rebellion).

New Artifacts and Bonuses - The fringes of your Empire hold great power if you know where to look...

Civics Matter - Almost all civic structures have an impact on your Empire. You must develop your planets wisely to get the most out of them.

Culture Matters - Don't underestimate the ugly stepchild of Sins anymore, its back with a vengeance!

Customization - Play the game the way you want it with a growing library of optional minimods and enhanced mapmaker support!

 

Download

WinCustomize (Diplomacy 1.34)

Moddb (Rebellion 1.1)

Enhanced 4X Mod

Credits

People

Axel Dude - For his wonderful planet textures in the Infinite Space mod, most of which is included in E4X.

IskatuMesk - For his awesome library of sound effects released to the community, a few of which are included in this mod.

Sinperium - For making the phase probe mesh and good feedback.

ZombieRus5 - For getting channeling abilities to work correctly (after we ironed out a few bugs) and for his many hours of "experimental" modding that lead the rest of us realizing more things are possible than we thought.

Seleucia - For his thoughtful analysis and for allowing me to use some of his rebalanced abilities.

Ue_Carbon - Intelligent Feedback.

Mods


Maelstrom - Awesome new planet module meshes

Infinite Space - Main source of planet textures and other astronomy related changes, as well as some planet bonuses.

Uzi's Sins Plus - Several planet textures and bonuses have been incorporated from it.

Celestial Bodies - For an additional source of planet textures.

Project Equilibrium - For an awesome set of fun balance changes.

 

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April 20, 2012 3:02:51 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting Mechanos5,
My apologies for any concern, consternation, or constipation this ordeal may have caused anyone.

No worries, glad you could figure out that very unusual problem. Enjoy the mod.

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April 23, 2012 9:20:36 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

To combat the recent surge in necromancer activity, I thought it would be a good time for a status report.

The TEC heroes are functionally complete, and say 60% of the icon work for them. The rest are pretty haphazard, but progress should be quick once I have a lot of time to put into modding again. Biggest issue is still trying to get the AI to autocast it, does anyone know of any other abilities that use "ApplyTargettedBuffToSelf" to target friendly planets in other mods?

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April 24, 2012 2:52:03 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Well, there's always Provoke Hysteria.  It doesn't target friendly planets, but that's a simple change.

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April 24, 2012 12:42:38 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Hi could you please put your very impressive mod on moddb.... also a hugh fan of zombierus's mod.

 

Thanks for making this awesome addition to the sins universe. It's quite nice to get a mod that you really do need to think before you act unless you want to get your butt kicked )

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April 24, 2012 11:31:01 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting Mike_Snyder,
Hi could you please put your very impressive mod on moddb.... also a hugh fan of zombierus's mod.

Definitely considering it, this mod ended up growing far bigger than I thought it would, it could certainly use its own dedicated space. I'm personally a bit lukewarm to Moddb though, perhaps because I can't find hardly any good list of features it gives modders and what the requirements are.

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April 24, 2012 11:45:50 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

ModDb is where a lot of people who've played other modded games find new ones sometimes though.   Doesn't hurt.

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April 25, 2012 1:10:19 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting Sinperium,
ModDb is where a lot of people who've played other modded games find new ones sometimes though.   Doesn't hurt.

 

Just to throw it out there, I found Distant Stars first through ModDB and then was directed to it's thread on the forums here. If anything, it is a road marker to garner additional attention.

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April 25, 2012 4:21:51 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting Sinperium,
ModDb is where a lot of people who've played other modded games find new ones sometimes though. Doesn't hurt.

That's certainly true, but honestly I care more about will it make handling the logistic of the mod easier. Also what exactly is the difference between moddb and Desura these days?

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April 25, 2012 4:32:04 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting GoaFan77,
Also what exactly is the difference between moddb and Desura these days?

I'm not sure really anymore either. Doing some looking around to see what's going on as a few of the mods are now on both Moddb and Desura.

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April 25, 2012 6:41:19 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Haven't heard of Desura before ...

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April 25, 2012 7:03:24 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting boshimi336,
Haven't heard of Desura before ...

It's a client somewhat like Steam but it has the installation and playing of mods specifically in mind. You buy and download the games yourself or off Desura I believe.

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April 25, 2012 7:29:20 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Stardrive is on Desura....nice thing is, doesn't require an internet connection play like steam does....

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April 25, 2012 9:19:43 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting GoaFan77,
Also what exactly is the difference between moddb and Desura these days?

I'm pretty sure Desura is just moddb's client. The mods that are set up to work with Desura are done by moddb users, though unfortunately this isn't without it's own errors.

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April 26, 2012 12:35:13 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting Lavo_2,
I'm pretty sure Desura is just moddb's client. The mods that are set up to work with Desura are done by moddb users, though unfortunately this isn't without it's own errors.

So it can actually install mods correctly for Sins? At least part of the time?

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April 26, 2012 1:09:20 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Well, I would think Sins would have to be on Desura....

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April 26, 2012 1:46:58 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting Seleuceia,
Well, I would think Sins would have to be on Desura....

well somehow my mod started the move to Desura, though I didn't initiate it. Kinda peeved about that. I sent an email to try and get the skinny on that.

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April 26, 2012 5:25:35 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Wow...so, does desura actually install a mod for a steam game?

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April 26, 2012 10:17:31 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting GoaFan77,
So it can actually install mods correctly for Sins? At least part of the time?

Yes. At first it didn't install SoGE right, though after I brought that up on the Desura support forums, the guy who added SoGE fixed that and now it works fine (or so I hear).

Quoting ZombiesRus5,
well somehow my mod started the move to Desura, though I didn't initiate it. Kinda peeved about that. I sent an email to try and get the skinny on that.

As I mentioned before, it's moddb users, working on/with/whatever Desura, that decide to add mods to it. Said users also tell Desura how to download/install the mod in question as well. Or in other words, you have fans, and fans who want to make it easier to run/install your mod. "Easier" being entirely subjective of course.

Quoting Seleuceia,
Wow...so, does desura actually install a mod for a steam game?

Yup. Unless it requires a base-game override (like the STALKER series), I don't see why there would be an issue with modding Steam games.

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April 26, 2012 10:20:34 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting Lavo_2,
As I mentioned before, it's moddb users, working on/with/whatever Desura, that decide to add mods to it. Said users also tell Desura how to download/install the mod in question as well. Or in other words, you have fans, and fans who want to make it easier to run/install your mod. "Easier" being entirely subjective of course.

Ya, that needs to be shutdown. I can't have fans deciding how to install my shit... and then expecting me to support... lol.

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April 26, 2012 10:33:46 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting ZombiesRus5,

Quoting Lavo_2, reply 243As I mentioned before, it's moddb users, working on/with/whatever Desura, that decide to add mods to it. Said users also tell Desura how to download/install the mod in question as well. Or in other words, you have fans, and fans who want to make it easier to run/install your mod. "Easier" being entirely subjective of course.

Ya, that needs to be shutdown. I can't have fans deciding how to install my shit... and then expecting me to support... lol.

 

You have enough issues with folders.

 

Just saying.

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April 26, 2012 10:50:14 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting ZombiesRus5,
Ya, that needs to be shutdown. I can't have fans deciding how to install my shit... and then expecting me to support... lol.

Man, you should've seen my face when I read that someone posted that installing SoGE via Desura caused minidumps as it didn't install patch 2.1 right.

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April 28, 2012 5:46:20 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Good news, I've now set up the heroes so the autocast and thus AI will use them correctly, so this feature is definitely a go. Though it still might be a while as the next few weeks will be quite busy for me and I want to complete them as professionally as possible.

 

Quoting ZombiesRus5,
Ya, that needs to be shutdown. I can't have fans deciding how to install my shit... and then expecting me to support... lol.

Yeah, you just need to have a "standard" edition for SotF and Blood and Chrome, and let those smart enough to figure out your documentation get the rest.

Quoting Lavo_2,
Man, you should've seen my face when I read that someone posted that installing SoGE via Desura caused minidumps as it didn't install patch 2.1 right.

Yeah its a cool idea, they should ask the modders first though.

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April 28, 2012 5:53:33 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Looking forward to this update Goa.  Makes your mod really stand out.

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April 28, 2012 6:00:43 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Just out of curiosity, how are you making the hero units?  Do players simply start with them?  I'm assuming you've copied the Advent Rebel techs for your revival code.

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April 28, 2012 6:20:48 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting Volt_Cruelerz,
Just out of curiosity, how are you making the hero units? Do players simply start with them? I'm assuming you've copied the Advent Rebel techs for your revival code.

Completely different my friend. The heroes will be released on the last version of this mod for Diplomacy, maybe with some stuff from Sinperium's cargo mod if his sons ever stop getting married and contracting work finishes so he can finish it up. No Rebellion features are needed for it to work.

It works closer to how titans and flagships work in Maelstrom and the original flagship mod (I think, haven't played the latter) in that each player starts with a single, invulnerable structure that can spawn them. However my version is a lot more flexible as all of them can be spawned from the same structure and at any planet you own.

You don't start with them, their summon abilities require certain normal techs to be researched (I think I'm going with one at 3, 5 and 7 labs), so its intend that you'll unlock them as you normally progress up the tech tree. Each time you summon a hero however the cooldown to replace them gets longer, so you want to be fairly careful not to lose them (and of course their levels will reset). Also you'll only be able to summon one hero in a 4 minute period, so you can't surprise you opponent by warping them all in at once.

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