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Well, just don’t act surprised. Where’d I put the tar and feathers?

By on January 26, 2012 12:13:03 PM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

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They can’t get over the power they have over people. These examples of how we should conduct ourselves and our lives and via “sundry” laws shred the Constitution “for our benefit and security”.

Now some lawmakers in Hawaii want to pass a law that would force ISP’s to keep track of your visits:

Hawaii's legislature is weighing an unprecedented proposal to curb the privacy of Aloha State residents: requiring Internet providers to keep track of every Web site their customers visit.

John Mizuno, a Democratic state legislator in Hawaii, wants to require virtual dossiers to be compiled on state residents: two years' worth of their Internet browsing. Its House of Representatives has scheduled a hearing this morning on a new bill (link to PDF) requiring the creation of virtual dossiers on state residents. The measure, H.B. 2288, says "Internet destination history information" and "subscriber's information" such as name and address must be saved for two years.” - http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-57366443-281/hawaii-may-keep-track-of-all-web-sites-visited/?tag=mncol;cnetRiver via http://www.neowin.net/news/proposed-hawaii-bill-would-keep-track-of-citizens-web-visits

 

To me, this is yet another effort to destroy the Fourth Amendment… another politician seeking fame.

Make your views known to your representatives… lest they become “inspired” as well.

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January 28, 2012 3:21:14 PM from GalCiv II Forums GalCiv II Forums

Quoting DrJBHL,
1) Until they check your credit rating.

2) The Secret Service's too.

I have my cynical moments far more often than I'd like, but your credit rating is a moot point in this context. Staffers will check to see if you are a regular correspondent and how often you vote. They understand that word of mouth is still an important 'marketing' channel.

The spooks are hopefully irrelevant, and the Secret Service would only come into play if you were writing to the president. 

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January 28, 2012 3:27:28 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

GW Swicord - I don't know in which universe do you live, but it can't be this one. Voting ceremony is just a charade - in case you haven't noticed, your "elected representatives" are bought with corporate money before, or shortly after they come to office. That's why you can get over 20 year in prison for copyright infringements, while for starting a war that kills hundreds of thousands of foreign civilians, you are not even prosecuted. Those "do-gooders" are just a bunch of hypocrites, and in a system whose official propaganda is "greed is good", I would not expect anything else.

Even today, they babble about pipe dreams like "sustained economic growth", while more then 80 percent of fish in the oceans are dead, the rest is poisonous, the oil is dwindling and humanity is about to experience a massive die-off from population overshoot. And all thanks to gullible sheep who do not do their homework and just follow the flock.

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January 28, 2012 3:35:57 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Kamamura_CZ,
And all thanks to gullible sheep who do not do their homework and just follow the flock.

I try to do my homework, it's just the the choices are typically so darned poor and the information is so darned slanted.

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January 28, 2012 4:12:36 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting GW Swicord,
but your credit rating is a moot point in this context

Humor, GW Swicord, humor. Haven't seen any black helicopters. Certainly none I'd admit to publicly. 

Quoting DaveRI,



Quoting Kamamura_CZ,
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And all thanks to gullible sheep who do not do their homework and just follow the flock.


I try to do my homework, it's just the the choices are typically so darned poor and the information is so darned slanted.

Also very true.

 

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January 28, 2012 4:13:09 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting Kamamura_CZ,
I don't know in which universe do you live, but it can't be this one.

We share the same universe, but I'm tired to the bone with broad-brush rants, sweeping generalizations, and excessive wallowing in anger. I never said a thing to imply that there is no problem with the role that campaign finance plays in our system--Citizens United v. FEC is possibly the worst Supreme Court decision handed down in my lifetime. I've long wanted Buckley v. Valeo overturned and public financing established for campaigns at all levels of gov't. We shouldn't have to suffer Mad Ave technology during campaign season. The people who profit from broadcast licenses and local cable monopolies owe the public a generous chunk of air time for solo talking-head presentations from candidates and actual debates among candidates (not the current mode of cross-talking, scripted sound-byte fests). 

What I'm truly sick of hearing is absolute rejection of both the possibility and reality of democratically elected leaders who are dedicated to public service and not simply self-serving opportunists. This toxic rhetorical environment is not new, but it got a Titan IV-sized boost back when Saint Reagan villainously claimed that "government is the problem." Things will not get better until enough folks get over their favorite rants and get back to the messy, difficult, never-quite-satisfying work of forging compromises between competing interests in civil society. 

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March 19, 2012 12:32:40 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting GW Swicord,
We still have clean elections in the U.S., so the real people to blame are the citizens who keep returning 'despicable' people to office.

I can recall a president that wasn't voted in but yet he got to be president x2 BUSH Jr.

and to top it off one of the re-counters in Florida was a relative that help recount the votes.

not a clean election there..

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 and it seems  like every year when we vote to rise property/sales tax and so forth they pass with a landslide

yet we bitch about it every time. it sound a little fishy to me.

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