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first off titans r not a counter to sb, sb r a counter against titans
On their own perhaps, but the titan won't be on it's own. The point is the addition of titans have increased the total potency of fleets by a bit, making the direct-assault method more easily effective then it was before.
Titans don't HAVE to be able to 1v1 starbases to make them by and large a less efficient defense.
second adjudicators dont suck in large numbers they can do more damage to more targets faster ogrovs can
I hope you're kidding. Adjudicators deal less damage from a shoter range as compared to Ogrovs. Oh yeaha nd they cost a lot more resources & supply per ship....on advent, the faction with the worst economy(whereas the extremely efficient ogrovs belong to the faction with the best economy).
The amount of investment required to make adjucators a force to be feared will utterly hamstring the advent fleet's general potency, especially given that the advent is already on a tight budget.
The multiple targets aspect has finicky targeting sometimes and frankly isn't really very important. Like Is aid, remove bombers and the advent need a strong counter to starbases, not a mediocre starbase counter that also simultaneous does mediocre damage to a few other nearby structures.
The high cost of these units as compared to ogrovs is also a big issue as they have worse survival rates due to their shorter range. Even with extra armor/shields they still have a cruddy armor type, and due to their high supply cost & low damage per ship they will invariably have a smaller ship combat-fleet guarding them then Ogrovs would.
third sb r suppose to be the ultimate defensive structure so they should be able to hold of sc much longer than they do now period
This is a silly argument. Everything needs a counter, being the "ultimate defense" does not exempt it from having a means of countering it. That means is currently primarily bombers.
That said as I implied in my OP, I could see bombers being made to take a bit longer to kill a starbase(perhaps modifying it's armor type?). Whether bombers counter a bit too hard is IMO open to debate.
But whether or not they currently counter too hard atm, they need to remain a counter. In the long run starbases cannot be given a means of sustainably defending against bombers. If supporting fighters or antistrikecraft capital ships aren't brought to support the starbase, it should just be a matter of time before it falls.
fourth vasari do have a strong counter to sb which is there own sb and once they the assault deployment with ease and thats just the loyalist the vasari rebels can phase jump a fully upgraded sb
Their SB is a fairly strong counter, but it's also one that takes a great deal of time(since the Orky will need to e upgraded to attack an upgraded starbase), giving the enemy fleet plenty of time to show up. This can sometimes make the vasari counter impractical.
That said, It is certainly a counter, my biggest point was really the advent. Their only real starbase counter is bombers.
sb do need flak weapons as a third weapon upgrade
Again I disagree. At least in the absence of giving every faction a counter as reliable and effective as Ogrovs I think it is a very bad idea to improve starbase resistance to the only counter every faction has available.