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Quoting JohnJames, reply 46This is a time when Devs need to ignore the suggestion made by others to limit superweapons.  

Superweapons are individually weak...other than kosturas, the tactical significance of one superweapon isn't very high, and late game basically becomes a superweapon spamfest...

I'd rather see superweapons that truly were super where one weapon had a huge tactical significance, and buffing superweapons to that degree would need to be coupled with some sort of limit...

Imagine a novalith that instantly destroys a planet (bypassing auxilary gov.), or a deliverance engine effect that lasts for 30 minutes, or a kostura shot that destroys structures (save superweapons) instantly...you couldn't make superweapons that powerful unless there was a limit...

Anyway, I'm really glad that the limit is likely to be moddable...


Quoting GoaFan77, reply 48I don't know, but thank the [noun] that they did it as constraints...

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At a limit of 2 or 4 the super weapons are not so super.  They are talking about to just limiting the number without any changes.

Remember Dark Armada?  Was nerf to death.  Have not seen anyone use it in years.  With a limit of 2 or 4 the supers weapons wont be that super.  

Your suggestions on the super weapons are game breakers. Ability to bypass aux gov with tec loyalist getting noas at level 6 is bad news

if the super weapons get a big buff then yeah it would be better but leaving them as is would make them useless minus the vasari super

Do they mean TEC Rebels for the mercenaries? 

The problem with Novaliths right now is that for the TEC loyalist they have been lifted out of their former place in the tech tree. They are tech 6 military with no prerequisites so they can rush to them, while the tech rebels need to research 7 things in missile tech before reaching it and the Advent is similar. I say put the loyalists Novalith research back somewhere in missiles so it cant be rushed too like now, then add a superweapons counter to game options 0-2-4-6-unlimited.

Agreed, could we get at least 3 ? 

i like them shooting across systems it makes the game harder

Limiting super weapons to 2 or 4 basically means TEC loyalist gets massive nerf.

Tec loyalist are turtle race with titan that is incapable to do even minor damage to defended position even with support fleet. That means Loyalists have to have something that gives them offensive edge. As far as I see it novaliths are their only attack option.  

With limiting them here they need boost somewhere else.  

As much as I kind of stopped playing against TEC Loyalist Vicious AI just because they build super weapons 10-15 minutes into the game I do not agree they should be limited. There should be sort of time delay before you can start researching super weapons or start building them. 30 minutes in the game is late enough for players to take care of their defences and not to late for TEC loyalists to have impact in the game

was there another update?

Given the upcoming novalith constraints, I would request that autocast be turned off by default for its firing ability.  TEC Loyalist players will need to be more strategic about that first shot if they are going to rush them.  

It seems that the new novalith strategy for the loyalists may need be to a) turtle get the novalith early , and c) follow up your shots with an invasion fleet.  The shots won't necessarily have to be at border worlds, but they will need to count.

Would it be possible to scale the maximum allowed super-weapons based on map size?  2 (or 4) on a small map is very different from a large.  

As for these Advent and other recent updates, I really like them and look forward to trying them out.  I'm really glad the new Advent techs are being lowered so the 2 factions can be more distinct.  RoF and Reanimation at levels 1 and 2, holy crap.  Protection of the Unity, damn.  I think Advent Rebels will be my favorite faction after all (that loyalist coronata though, hmm).

Yeah, I checked it, and it was already on that setting. Guess I'll try rebooting my system and see what happens. Thanks.

How about this,

1 Adjustible limit IE 2,3,5,unlimited (This will be a per system limit)

2 For Tec loyalist put novalith back into the missile tree as a branch just move it up the tree so it is quicker to get to.

3 Limit super weapons to firing in their home system but add a tech to allow them to fire cross system. (This tech should be for late game and in defference to its truly super status it should be at the end of the missile tree since it is a prepulsion technoligy after all and require 9 military labs)

On a side note about the cross system firing nothing pisses me off more in the auto ai than going to the trouble of establising a pressence on a remote system, putting up novaliths and haveing them fire all the way back at my home system or some other system I am not even looking at yet. Not to mention colinizing a recently enemy planet only to have it go up in smoke two or three minutes later due to a shot that was fired when the planet was enemy, I hate micromanaging the things.

Please fix the fail whit the TEC research Labs the image of the bottom centre are exchanged, if you select the military lab appear the image of the civic lab and if you select the civic one appear the military. This happen in diplomacy 1.34 too.