I'm not getting worked up over anything.

Its not about the content, but about the tone. When I read your last... three or four posts in this thread if constantly feels like you're yelling. That's not helping.

It's also hard to distinguish normal speech and irony/sarcasm in written text and I had my problems guessing just how serious you were in that post, as well. I had the very same problem. I tried to lightly remind you about that tone problem, even put in a wink smiley to make sure people don't take it too seriously. You still didn't get it.

sir, a fleet can easily take a titan. If I ever face someone with a titan I laugh because I just fleet. In multiplayer I rarely build a titan and I usually win my games. I like my titans late. The metagame has changed, this is how things are now. Also throwing your titan actually hurts you a lot. Let me put it this way.

If you have to titans, and one beats the other, the one that lived gets that XP, gets to stay alive and farm more XP. The other one has to rebuild. If what you wanted was true, the player who lost the titan most likely would lose the game.

They wont battle forever dude, and the chances of even reaching level 10 in a competitive match is slim. At level 10 whoever wins the fight usually storms their planets and wins the game.

If the other player(s) don't take advantage of the time it takes to rebuild a titan then it's their fault not the game's. That's time you can reinforce, repair, conquer, and farm XP in addition to the huge XP payout a higher level titan gives. 

Actually, a less severe (but still quite annoying) method that you might be able to work around for titan loss/recovery is to require you to rebuild the titan construction base once a titan has been constructed there.  Those things are not cheap, not incredibly fast builds, and generally a pain.  So you can either rebuild the titan construction field right away (and have to worry about cost), wait and hope it doesn't come up soon, or rebuild when they're going- or build a secondary one at another star system, even.

It increases the penalty for losing one without making it crushing, and making it something you can plan around.

Or of course any of the other options where you lose some levels/xp, get a slight damage debuff, etc.    Or perhaps a sliding scale where you gain levels (at about the buy level rate) till it's back up to it's full power.  I don't think it should be game-losing to lose a titan (since a level 8ish titan vs a level 1 is just not reasonable), but I do think it wouldn't suck to give some sort of penalty beyond build time and cost.

Titans keeping their level also keeps sins a very Titan focused game. In that you will always use your Titan as the hammer, as opposed to having the threat of having to use your secondary fleet as its replacement. 

So, if the devs are stuck on this how about Titan cost/buildtime increases with its level?  At least then losing a level 10 titan would still be more than a minor set back (by the time you have a level 10 titan, you probably have the economy to buy it back nearly instantly).

lol losing a lvl 5 titan rebuilding it as the same cost and build time of a lvl 1 is not a penalty thats more like a reward there has to be REAL penalty like losing a lvl or 2 for each death and a cost increase and build time for each lvl after 1 or something like this

This of course would all be rendered moot if there was a way to counter titans for cost with normal units.  The root of the problem is that the only thing that can touch a levelled titan is another levelled titan.  This is not how a RTS is supposed to play out, everything needs counters (aside from itself) or the game becomes completely stale.

first i play against all cruel and victorious ai so if i was looking for an easy win i would go fuckin play against an easy ai

second i am thinking about the balance which is y im not saying reset the titans back at 1 like wbino is but THERE MUST BE A PENALTY FOR LOSING A TITAN its to damn easy to rebuild them as a high lvl titan atm. if u lose u titan that ur damn fault and should be penalize for it

/facepalm i fuckin hope u r fuckin joking about that fuckin comment cuz i have ever fuckin right to comment on balance as someone who plays online. a game cant be just balanced based online it has to be both

Read what Rover said, I meant no disrespect but it is true. In all multiplayer games, the multiplayer community trumps single player. This is where mods come into play for you. Also watch the language.

Balance needs to be made around mutliplayer, because you won't see an AI abuse of any imbalances, but you sure as hell will see players doing just that.

Unless, of course, the imbalance is so great that even an AI can't help but exploit it, then it's not just an imbalance, it's broken.

Edit: oh look my avatar pic finally shows its face. Did I have to reach a certain number of posts or something?