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Change the Military/Civilian research only achievements

By NovaStalker on April 22, 2012 4:55:59 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

NovaStalker

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They are the most stupid achievements I can imagine. If it was a case of win a match using only Mil or Civ that would be one thing but requiring you to research EVERYTHING means a moronically long match. They don't even have the synergy you would expect because the Civ player would need to take diplomacy to be able to feed the Military player resources which fucks over the Civ player.

 

Achievements should be fun or interesting goals to aim for (or milestones along the way if you're going to be boring about it). Not completely impossible or utterly moronic styles of play.

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R3DT1D3
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April 22, 2012 4:05:04 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

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They don't even have the synergy you would expect because the Civ player would need to take diplomacy to be able to feed the Military player resources which fucks over the Civ player.

 

Single player->fast research->easy AI->X8 speed->Profit

Going for any achievements in MP (other than the missions one) is pointless. 

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April 22, 2012 4:11:31 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

I think his main point is there isnt really anything to be achieved by doing this achievement. I agree honestly:p

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R3DT1D3
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April 22, 2012 4:45:18 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting MayallCommunion,
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I think his main point is there isnt really anything to be achieved by doing this achievement. I agree honestly:p

 

That can be said for any achievements in the history of achievements. Some are just more obvious about being time sinks than others. 

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MayallCommunion
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April 22, 2012 4:52:00 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Not really... I don't even think im going to bother explaining why because I don't feel that I should have to. And you should already know this Achievement is just a time sink and only a time sink.

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Ryat
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April 22, 2012 5:25:19 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

All achievements are time sinks.

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Scudhawk
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April 22, 2012 6:19:58 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

If you got custom race portraits or unique ship skins for getting all of a races specific achievements it'd be worth it.

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MayallCommunion
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April 22, 2012 6:23:51 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting Ryat,
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All achievements are time sinks.

 

No not really many of them can be completed through normal actions in the game. This achievement you sink money into tech you normally would never get such as Crew Training.

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mcintire
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April 22, 2012 8:57:05 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Completing something through playing the game normally isn't really an achievement (safe for introductory ones like "win your first game" maybe). The current achievements are simple grind achievements with varying difficulty (win against 4 hard AIs lol).

 

I made a few suggestions for new achivements in another related thread, maybe it's time we turn a thread into a suggestion thread for new ones? Like collecting fun/werid/awesome stuff we managed to do and turn those into achievements?

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NovaStalker
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April 23, 2012 5:50:45 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting Ryat,
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All achievements are time sinks.

 

I fail to see how that is relevant to anything. My point is clearly that the research ones are neither fun nor challenging the way good achievements are.

 

If you're the kind of person who sits down and laboriously goes through each achievement just to get them then good for you but I have no kinship with you. I want achievements to be like Space Ponies or Go Big or Go Home. Either something you get along the way or an interesting approach to something. Fun or challenging.

 

Do not derail my thread with an achievements are all pointless rant because a ) you're wrong and b ) I don't care.

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User45701
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April 25, 2012 8:28:02 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

No changes needed on existing achievements they are all doable - ive had all but 1 of them in every version of sins (the only 1 i have never got is the one you get by buying up resouces from other players)

New achievements needed like

 

win a game without losing a titan or capital ship

win a game without losing a single planet

win a game without building a superweapon or starbase

 

the tricky ones are win a geme without the civilian research - meaning no ice or volcanic worlds

 

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Mr. Haze
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April 25, 2012 9:16:17 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting User45701,
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the tricky ones are win a geme without the civilian research - meaning no ice or volcanic worlds

 

Just play Point Blank and you're pretty much guaranteed to get it.

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User45701
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April 25, 2012 12:27:34 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

i got it on a map i made myself but thats a good idea - i dont play too many of the maps that come with the game

 

to get all the artifacts i kinda cheated i make a 2nd start with 80+ pirate bases and that was that - AI does not may them too much atttention

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NewHorizons
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April 25, 2012 1:18:37 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting User45701,
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New achievements needed like

win a game without losing a titan or capital ship

win a game without losing a single planet

win a game without building a superweapon or starbase

 

Good ideas, also worth throwing into the suggestions pot:

 

* One Titan to rule them all :- Get your titan to the highest level (equiv of Capital Ship Captain)

* Clash of the Titans :- Destroy X titans (value of X should be hard but not impossible)

* Flagship of the empire :- Win the game with a Titan and frigates only (no capital ships)

* Diplomatic Alliance :- Win the game with an ally at max relationship points

* Doomsday weapon :- build max number of super weapons

 

User45701's last one probably could be split up

* Non-proliferation treaty : win a game without building a superweapon

Would have like to have called the no-starbase achievement "Best offence is the best defence" but that's already taken.

 

I must admit I've never even bothered to try for the civ/military only research achievements, mainly for the same reasons as the original post.

 

 

 

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