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When facing a Titan with an AOE attack...

By Sakhari on May 20, 2012 3:53:38 AM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

Sakhari

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Do you use frigate-class ships with any regularity and if so, which ones?

Nearly every fight I've gotten into that features either the Eradica or Ragnarov (on my side or the other or both), just about everything smaller than a heavy cruiser gets wiped off the field with one or two shotgun blasts or chaos bursts.  I'm starting to feel like there's a point in the game where the smaller ships become little more than a liability and I'm not sure what to do at that point outside of spamming heavy cruisers/bombers with flak and support cruisers as backup (mostly bombers since the heavies don't seem to hold up that well either).  In the last fight I got into, both my opponent and I had a 6+ Ragnarov with a roughly 1000-point fleet at their backs and inside of 20 seconds, the only things left on the field were the two Titans, a couple of caps, and the squadrons belonging to those caps.

I guess my real questions would be something to the tune of - what are the popular late-game fleets looking like these days?  With the abundance of click-to-wipe-target-fleet abilities available (without even mentioning others like the Corsev demo teams and the like) in several forms, spamming bombers with flak seems to be the safest way to approach just about any situation. 

 

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GoaFan77
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May 20, 2012 4:09:29 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Bring Dunovs, Radiances and Kortuls against high level titans. EMP, Detonate Antimatter and Destruptive strike can all keep titan antimatter down and thus lock down their abilities. Discordias can also increase titan ability cooldown.

Frigates can really kill a titan a lot faster than titans/capitalships alone, but if you feel they're just feeding a titan start build carrier cruisers. They can stay away from the action while their strike craft do what they to whittle them down from afar.

Also Celio Command cruisers with designate target and Jarrusul Evacuators with nanites are great against any single target you need destroyed in a hurry, including titans. A handful of overseers, hoshikos, and even dominas are good if for healing if you can keep them far enough behind the titans guns.

Of course its the big fleets you're bringing in with the AoE units that are tricky. Your own powerful AoE attack would be ideal but not every faction has one. Obviously once you got the titan's antimatter under control its safe to bring your own fleet back in, but its admittingly a tricky situation.

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gundamlit
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May 20, 2012 8:42:38 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Then how to deal with The Maw?

I hate this!

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RiddleKing
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May 20, 2012 10:33:21 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

When frigates face a titan with an AOE attack:

Solution:

1. ***** run

2. Repulse the shit out of that titan. 

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Rovert10
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May 20, 2012 11:11:48 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting gundamlit,
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Then how to deal with The Maw?

I hate this!

The fact alone that the titan somehow got to level 6 is pretty bad. Considering it's one of the most underpowered ones.

Your only hope is to try to interupt its abilites with Dunov, Radiance, or Kortul.

Problem is that it can just mini phase jump ahead and eat all those frigates you have in the back.

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RiddleKing
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May 20, 2012 11:22:26 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting Rovert10,
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Quoting gundamlit, reply 2Then how to deal with The Maw?

I hate this!

The fact alone that the titan somehow got to level 6 is pretty bad. Considering it's one of the most underpowered ones.

Your only hope is to try to interupt its abilites with Dunov, Radiance, or Kortul.

Problem is that it can just mini phase jump ahead and eat all those frigates you have in the back.

D. anti-matter does not interupt titan abilities...

not sure about the other ones but it explains why some people call me bias. Advent knowledge>Other races

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Ryat
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May 20, 2012 11:34:03 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting RiddleKing,
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D. anti-matter does not interupt titan abilities...

No but it can remove the antimatter and thus help slow down the AoEs.

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Sakhari
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May 20, 2012 11:59:33 AM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

Quoting RiddleKing,
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Solution:
1. ***** run
2. Repulse the shit out of that titan.

Heh, that's pretty much where I am at the moment.  I guess I'm just getting a little tired of having to spam bombers in every game where one of these titans is present.  And, since bombers en masse are effective against nearly everything else that fleets generally have a problem with... well, why not? 

I'm not going to make any comments on actual game balance but to me, things do seem to be a bit too titan-centric in the current environment.  I'm not a fan of having to avoid using smaller ships for fear of feeding this instagib-machine that never loses exp.   

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MayallCommunion
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May 20, 2012 12:08:23 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

If its the Eradica run, you CAN micro your ships to hit the ragnarov from the side or back. But pretty much what riddleking said.

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JJBuck2
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May 20, 2012 12:52:59 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Tossing my 2 cents into the mix here, seems to me that maybe Detonate AM should at least interrupt titans. I can't be the only one whos seen how badly the VRT rapes an advent battle ball. And yes, Chastic Burst is real nasty too but Nano Leech ignores shields and drains AM. For a hull-weak and AM dependent race (advent) this is just nasty to deal with and they have no good way of avoiding it, other than repulse.

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RiddleKing
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May 20, 2012 1:30:51 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting JJBuck2,
reply 9
Tossing my 2 cents into the mix here, seems to me that maybe Detonate AM should at least interrupt titans. I can't be the only one whos seen how badly the VRT rapes an advent battle ball. And yes, Chastic Burst is real nasty too but Nano Leech ignores shields and drains AM. For a hull-weak and AM dependent race (advent) this is just nasty to deal with and they have no good way of avoiding it, other than repulse.

 

Rephrase that to: I can't be the only one whose seen how badly the vrt rapes an Ai advent battle ballocks. 

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