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Consistent Mini Dump Crashes during Late Game

By Coridane on July 1, 2012 7:16:29 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Coridane

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Three friends and me have been playing a lot of Rebellion over LAN lately. It's been a blast, but we have been consistently experiencing a crash during the late game. It has happened with a multi-star map, but also with single stars. It has happened with large fleets enabled, but also with normal fleets enabled. I wonder if it's happening during one of the auto saves.

We can't help but wonder if it's being caused by the lesser Phantom or Intel Core processors or the machine with only 4 GB of memory. To that end, we are doing some testing (have another one lined up in about an hour from now).

Two of the computers: i7 2 GHz processors (2630), quad core with hyper threading, 8 GB of DDR3 memory, and the GeForce 460M (1 GB of video memory).

One of the computers: Phenom II 965 BE 3.4 GHz processor, quad core, 16 GB of DDR3 memory, and the ATI HD 5770 (1 GB of video memory).

One of the computers: Intel Core 2 Duo 1.86 GHz processor (6320), 4 GB of DDR2 memory, and the ATI Radeon HD 5670.

The crashes are referencing a mini dump and I recently sent three dump files (from three different games) to Stardock Support for their review. Hopefully the dump files will help them determine the cause.

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raalee
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July 26, 2012 8:19:12 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Thanks for answering Major, I just did the LAA trick, I will load up the game and see what happens. I'll update teh thread on what effects if any I see from LAA.

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Coridane
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July 27, 2012 12:44:26 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting OrexxerO,
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Does this work at all or have anything to do with the MiniDump issues some of us are having Major Stress?

No, Major Stress is talking about something else. The mini dump issues discussed in this thread are something that has been confirmed as an issue. Yarlen, in this thread, indicated that they are working on squashing this bug, as did an e-mail from Technical Support. We'll see a patch eventually that will hopefully put this ugly crash to rest.

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OrexxerO
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July 27, 2012 1:17:44 AM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

Hope so, cus if not my Sins days will probably be over unfortunately. 

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redskull2
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July 27, 2012 1:25:28 AM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

yeah I just got into game, was enjoying my first playthrough exploring the factions.....minidump. and again, and again and again. Its sitting there in my steam library calling me to play it.,....then I remember the frustration of having the damn game crash on me every 30-60 minutes. Not worth it. Hopefully they fix this soon, I hate feeling ripped off. I guess I should take solace in the fact that there is a lot of new games coming out soon. 

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OrexxerO
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July 27, 2012 4:18:11 AM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

Also, Stardock, could you at least tell us in this thread? (looking at yarlen) what you guys are actually doing to actively work on this issue other then vague "we will crush space ponies!"? Would be nice to know what you guys are doing to fix and how much longer you think it will take. 

 

 

Not like im expecting a deadline or something like that, just wondering what kind of hope i can hold for playing it in the future. 

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July 27, 2012 10:30:55 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

There's several crash issues that we're investigating currently that we hope to fix for 1.04.  It's impossible for me to say which one you guys are hitting specifically, but we're working on them all.

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OrexxerO
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July 27, 2012 7:13:37 PM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

Thanks for responding. Do you have any idea when that new path will come out? 

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buckdulane
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August 14, 2012 10:24:49 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Having this problem myself. When in the game for a solid hour or two, it crashes to mini-dump and says, "Sins of a Solar Empire has stopped working."

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August 15, 2012 4:49:30 PM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

Any idea's when this 1.04 patch is going to be out? Because how it sits now I don't want to even play a game out of fear I'll get into another game and in an hour it will just minidump and I can't finish the map. Already has happened 3 times on three different maps with the Medium-Large map, AI set to Hard, and all options set to normal as settings.

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buckdulane
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August 16, 2012 12:42:44 AM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

It's still happening..

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Ibnpatuta
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August 16, 2012 9:11:15 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting buckdulane,
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Any idea's when this 1.04 patch is going to be out? Because how it sits now I don't want to even play a game out of fear I'll get into another game and in an hour it will just minidump and I can't finish the map. Already has happened 3 times on three different maps with the Medium-Large map, AI set to Hard, and all options set to normal as settings.

 

Yarlen has said that the new patch will be out sometime this month.

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August 17, 2012 10:23:29 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting OrexxerO,
reply 33
Thanks for responding. Do you have any idea when that new path will come out? 

We're testing it out internally currently and plan to put it out as an opt-in beta via Steam next week.  If there are no major issues reported, it'll go out as final to everyone a few days afterwards.

Be warned, it will not be save game compatible.

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uname_forever
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August 17, 2012 3:31:22 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

u can load the auto save tho, auto save works on multyplayer to but the game is not rated

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BellGoRiiing
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August 17, 2012 3:36:40 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

I give up, can't even play a small 2/4 game anymore. :/

I hope the update is early next week, I want to try and do the hard AI achievements.

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PorkRoast
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August 17, 2012 4:30:58 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

What I found was happening with my minidumps is they occurred when my games were exceeding 2gigs of RAM so after a bit of further investigation i figured out that my Sins was only allotting itself up to that point and when it exceeded it, it just gave up and dumped.

To fix it I went into my computer's command prompt and entered "bcdedit /set IncreaseUserVa 3072" which allows the game to exceed the 2gigs it originally gave itself. I haven't had a minidump since then even on the biggest of games.

I hope this works for others.

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BellGoRiiing
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August 20, 2012 3:54:31 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Sooo, when is the new update happening? Really want to play this game, but keep thinking "Ugh, what's the point?"... :/

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BFroberg
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August 26, 2012 6:16:50 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Still with the crickets..

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August 26, 2012 7:05:58 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting BellGoRiiing,
reply 42
Sooo, when is the new update happening? Really want to play this game, but keep thinking "Ugh, what's the point?"... :/

Quoting BFroberg,
reply 43
Still with the crickets..

You aren't listening.

http://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/429746

 

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BellGoRiiing
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August 26, 2012 9:53:10 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

You know Yarlen hid that for a bit right? And my last post was before he made it visible. We know its happening Tuesday now.

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August 27, 2012 1:35:36 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Great, thanks

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August 27, 2012 1:31:25 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

I just had two minidumps in online 2v2s within the first half hour. Is there anything I can do to fix this?

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Teun-A-Roonius
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August 27, 2012 1:35:46 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting Procumbo,
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I just had two minidumps in online 2v2s within the first half hour. Is there anything I can do to fix this?
No.

Edit: Well, waiting for the update and applying it (assuming it will be released tomorrow like the devs' stated) won't be a bad idea.

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Askereus
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November 13, 2012 2:45:42 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

As PorkRoast said.

 

"To fix it I went into my computer's command prompt and entered "bcdedit /set IncreaseUserVa 3072"(my note, if U have 64bit system, You can set 4096) which allows the game to exceed the 2gigs it originally gave itself. I haven't had a minidump since then even on the biggest of games. 

I hope this works for others."

This will work 100%, start listening each other! 

p.s. If of course you have enough RAM for that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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