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Best Specs to Optimize SOASE Currently?

March 17, 2013 6:56:30 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire ForumsSins of a Solar Empire Forums

What is best setup for SOASE currently?

Processor

i3 3240 3.4 Dual Core (Ivy Bridge)

i5 3470T 2.9 Dual Core (Ivy Bridge)

Pentium G2130 3.2 Dual Core (Ivy Bridge)

or something else?  AMD?  Do the number of threads matter?

Chipset

Does the chipset matter much?

Graphics

I assume any half-decent GPU can run SOASE on max settings right?

Other

Do things like a SSD, faster memory, etc. matter?  Anything else help?

I have a good system, but it's an i7-Quad, so I'm wondering if it might be good to go with a dual core and some other small tweaks or not...

 

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Reply #1 March 17, 2013 2:50:16 PM
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For best specs you need a single core 32-bit processor with 2 Gigs of RAM. Anything higher will cause issues. After that having a good video card is helpful.

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Reply #2 March 17, 2013 3:54:24 PM
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Quoting Ryat,
reply 1

For best specs you need a single core 32-bit processor with 2 Gigs of RAM. Anything higher will cause issues. After that having a good video card is helpful.

If a dual core is more than twice as fast as the single core isn't it better to get that and tell the other processes to use one core and SOASE to use the other?

In addition to the processors mentioned above, there is a G465 Celeron Ivy Bridge Single Core 1.9Ghz and a Pentium 4 Single Core 2.8Ghz.

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Reply #3 March 17, 2013 4:12:02 PM
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WTF Ryat, don't do that shit.

 

What is your i7 clocked at?

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Reply #4 March 17, 2013 4:38:58 PM
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Quoting slowreflex,
reply 2

If a dual core is more than twice as fast as the single core isn't it better to get that and tell the other processes to use one core and SOASE to use the other?

In addition to the processors mentioned above, there is a G465 Celeron Ivy Bridge Single Core 1.9Ghz and a Pentium 4 Single Core 2.8Ghz.

True to a degree.

Quoting psychoak,
reply 3

WTF Ryat, don't do that ****.

 

What is your i7 clocked at?

Clock speed does help yes.

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Reply #5 March 17, 2013 4:52:32 PM
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Dual core will always outperform single core, if nothing else because the OS and other "non-sins" processes can run on that core...

Some single-threaded games also sometimes have something run on other cores if possible, such as sound or music (can't remember if sins falls into this category)...

Anyway, an i7 with x clockspeed is going to be better than an i3 with the same x clockspeed...moving beyond that, having a really high clockspeed is going to be more important for sins than having lots of cores...once you have 2 cores and can put "non-sins" stuff on another core, you have enough cores...

As for graphics cards, I honestly don't have a damn clue what is best...newer graphics cards may actually be more prone to problems due to the age of the game...hell, I remember on my former computer that I had to use older drivers as the newer ones would always crash sins....

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Reply #6 March 17, 2013 5:05:17 PM
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Under the same architecture, yes.  More cores don't help an older architecture though.  I used a Pentium 4 Extreme 3.4Ghz processor after my dual 3.2ghz Xeon box had an accident.  It ran Sins like shit.  That was only stepping back from the Nocona architecture.  My current rig is based on Sandybridge, whether a quad or single core, a 3.2Ghz version would absolutely butcher my old Xeon system.  You need to get down near 2Ghz before you start getting comparable performance to the P4 architecture.

 

The architecture is the biggest advancement, not the extra cores.  There's just no comparison between Nehalem(the original i7) and any previous Intel chipset.  The same is true for Sandybridge and Ivybridge, they're much faster than Nehalem.  At the same clock speeds, those Ivybridge processors would have a significant edge over an old i7.

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Reply #7 March 17, 2013 5:56:16 PM
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Quoting psychoak,
reply 3

What is your i7 clocked at?

i7-920 @ Stock 2.67

It does run the game fine, until there are large fleets battling.  I wasn't sure if any system change would aid with that though or if it's just the game limitations.  I don't mind spending a bit of money if it makes a difference.

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Reply #8 March 18, 2013 6:08:36 AM
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back in entrenchment days I did some performance testing in several of my comps, and found that the latest cpu family at the highest clock speed with the fastest ram speed that I could tease out of the system DID reduce the late game lag effect (and I was using a i7- 930 at 4ghz w 1866mhz ddr3 ram and a ati5850 against a core2 quad 9550 at 4ghz with 1066 ddr2ram and an ati4850 and a amd x2 6000+(at stock due to heating) w 4gb ddr2 800 and a geforce8800gt,  and yes the i7-930 did hit lag later than the 9550 and a lot later than the amd.

so based upon my limited experience Iwould suggest that the i3(more ghz the better), with fast (reliable) ram and a seperate video card would be my suggestion.

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Reply #9 April 4, 2013 1:49:35 PM
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Honestly, the CPU doesn't matter unless its less than 1.5 ghz. I have a dual core running at 2 ghz with a pretty decent GPU, and it almost never bottlenecks..... unless there's fleets.....

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Reply #10 April 4, 2013 2:13:44 PM
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Part of the problem is the effects...the new rebellion effects, especially with the titans, are the worst...the weapons and some abilities (like scattershot) are just absolute killers...

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Reply #11 April 4, 2013 5:10:35 PM
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I can run Sins on max graphical settings, 10 player map (AI filling in those that don't fill in human slots), on normal or slow speed for 15-20+ hours without issue ...

 

I am rocking a 3.3ghz quad core (single core speed 3.3ghz) i5-2500k processor with 8gb of ram (sins utilizes the 2gb) on 'Huge' map settings.

 

It is mainly the single core cpu speed, how much other stuff is running on that single core, and how well your motherboard is designed to allow communication to and from the cpu that makes a big difference.

 

I haven't had any issues. my PC build is 1 year and 3 months ago.

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Reply #12 April 16, 2013 10:40:07 PM
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Quoting Ryat,
reply 1
For best specs you need a single core 32-bit processor with 2 Gigs of RAM. Anything higher will cause issues. After that having a good video card is helpful.

Figures. Some asshat always comes and tells everyone to buy a junk machine so they can come back to the forums and complain about lag. Perfect!

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Reply #13 April 16, 2013 10:42:47 PM
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I just assumed Ryat was joking.

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Reply #14 November 21, 2013 12:32:59 PM
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"Dual core will always outperform single core, if nothing else because the OS and other "non-sins" processes can run on that core..."


true to a point, older games do better on single cores.

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