You're missing the Rankulas and I assume you've missed the Discord (or simply misnumbered the Advent capital ships as "All but Revelation" would result in the Revelation being ranked (6)).

Well, you obviously never tried an Akkan start properly, that ship is the second best TEC ship after the Marza, and the best starter with good support abilities.

For the Advent part, how can you rate the Progenitor and the Halcyon to be the same level as Rapture, Discord and the Radiance? rapture is a useless ship, Discord runs out of antimatter too fast and the radiance does not have sufficient firepower to be a good starter, only useful when enemy titans are deployed.

Vasari is just like my rating.

Allowing the discord's aoe ability to hurt fighters and bombers would do a lot to improving it's usefulness.

true, but many players would cry OP instantly.. Anyway, are developers aware of the Discord's current state as a useless warship?

True, but what the hell is the reason for it? the KOL is the symbol of this game, and it is the worst TEC capitalship?... Why do devs ignore capitalships this much?

It wouldn't be OP. Psionic Scream is a frontal blast. Only carelessly attacking the Discord from the front with a single dense cloud of strikecraft would result in their obliteration. Skilled players in multiplayer would just split up their bombers and attack from different directions, and the Discord can't turn fast enough to catch a lot of them in its scream.

And Vasari bombers would still survive a level 1 Scream.

And its existing disable-abilities effect is useless because of its short duration and the fact that it cannot interrupt channelling abilities.

I don't get why the Rankulas and Discord are even classified as battleships anyway. They're more fleet support and don't have the single-combat power and tankiness of the 3 real battleships. They're more like battlecruisers in my opinion.

Hm I know, but still, this is an issue that has not been solved for many years and would only need minor changes like make the forcefield passive, and still, nothing is done to improve that awesome looking noob-starter capital ship

It's true, though Vasari is still much more powerful than they should be, not the "I am retreating from an invincible enemy" type of race it should be. They should be guerilla like race that could not hold on it's own in fleetVSfleet, but they have the best military and almost as good eco as TEC, so.. i don't really feel that banning is really solved..

My bad, I forgot that this is a frontal stuff, I never really use that ship, sorry. That way it would be nice that it affected SC.

I fail to see how Shield Restore can be awesome while Shield Regen is very helpful to worthless. Granted, Shield Restore isn't drawn out like Shield Regen but Regen has other benefits. Just my thoughts though.

The issue is not the ability itself, the issue is the ships affected by the ability.

TEC shields are weak, they usually will go down in no time. Which isnt that bad, because TEC does have hefty armor and hull upgrades that grant their ships significant survivability. So for a TEC ship having it shield restored means several seconds of less firepower on the hull.... often less enough to be mitigated by repairs.

Advent on the other hand have shields of excessive power but lackluster hull and amor values. Making them much more vulnerable to phase weapons. It is not a uncommon sight to see Advent capital ships and titans die with thousands of shield points remaining. If your titan does blow up with 10000 shield points left or 11000 shield points left doesnt make a difference. Hence the lower rating for the Progenitor.

Simple said: TEC ships rarely die with shields up.... their hulls are too durable for their weak shields to allow that to happen. So a TEC ship dying will face impact on its hull..... and Advent ship might face only shield impacts but the shield piercing firepower makes short work of the craft.

Explain your opinion please?

Vasari Capital Ships:

1. Kortul Devastator: The only true capitalship of Sins, the Kortul reigns supreme when it comes to pure combat power. Disruptive Strikes is the most powerful AM draining ability of the game due to being a passive and this comes in combination with Power Surge who not only brings the Kortuls firepower  close to Titan levels but also makes the ship nearly unkillable. Last but not least the ability Jam Weapons at least temporarly hinders the advance of enemy strike craft, giving the Kortul even more time to deplete hostile antimatter. Volatile Nanites is just the ice on the cake.
2. Jarrasul Evacuator: Nano Disassembler does cause significant amounts of hull damage and armor reduction. This ability may very well make the Jarrasul the only ship capable of getting toe to toe with a Kortul and standing a winning chance. Gravity warhead will make sure that no capital ship can flee from its destruction. Drain planet looks hilarious. All those cool abilities more than compensate for the only average colony founding.
3. Skirantra Carrier: Repair Cloud is imperative for a Vasari fleet. Maxing out at 30 hull points/sec (the equivalent of 120 shield points, even without armor) it helps a lot to keep the fleet alive. Remaining abilities are rather unimpressive, however the ship can have several squadron of phase missile bombers.
4. Vulkoras Desolator: Deploy Siege Platform is most annoying for the enemy and makes short work out of planets, without hindering fleet movement. Disintegration further enhances the already ruthless combat potential.
5. Antorak Marauder: Yes its firepower sucks but Phase out hull can either rescue one of your own capital ships or lock down hostile ones for significant amounts of time. Distort Gravity not only increases the already unrivaled Vasari mobility, but also make your fleet immune to phase jump inhibitors.... something not to be underestimated when in need of a hasty retreat. Stabilize Phase Space make your fleet indepenent of the Vorastras - slow - recharging Phase Gate drop, respectively allows you to jump in a little Orky surprise for your enemy.
6. Rankulas Battleship: Personally I feel its nanites act more like strike craft to a carrier ship. The support swarm might come in handy..... but then Overseers will likely do a much better job.

Please play some multiplayer Aresiv... you obviously don't know how powerful shield regen and malice are in light frigate/early game battles. Malice alone turns illums from being soft countered by vettes to being a HARD counter to vettes. 

Also, the concerns about phase missiles are entirely overblown... I too jumped on the PM OP bandwagon before I realized they weren't that big of an issue (slight nerf is needed though).

Again, if you played multiplayer you would understand all this. There must come a point when you have to test your ideas in the actual environment. IMO you spend too much time theory-crafting and not enough actual playing.

Da fuq.

Your arguments seem to be very late-game centric and fight-the-Vasari centric, and as you can see are sort of a devil's advocate PoV. Holistically the Progen is a brilliant ship IMO. It's a great starter - it colonizes (maybe not as well as Akkan but cheaper civ infrastructure is nice still), both Malice and Shield Regen are great against TEC's Cobalts/vettes and Marza, it solos the militia with very little effort, and Shield Regen is great when pounding down a low-level Orkulus with your Disciple mob. Later on Shield Regen remains useful and Malice is just awesome to combine with Chastic Burst or Unity Mass. And the combined firepower of itself and its resident strikecraft is not bad.

Personally I tend to find that both starting Akkan as TEC and Progen as Advent has the capital ship go off soloing militia around juicy planets while the frigates go off in another direction. At the end of a colonization spree, the Akkan will have weak shields and a partially battered hull slowly repairing... while the Progen has taken little hull damage if any and its shields rapidly regenerate (more so if you grab a point in Shield Regen), and so it's up to full strength very quickly. I personally find that this makes up for the fact that it is more fragile than the Akkan and Jarrasul in terms of straight-up effective hp.

all of this makes me want to mod the damn caps to what they should be! F*CKING EVIL! the discord is pretty good. against smaller ships. kodiaks its worthless. even 2 of them working side by side. the rapture is NOT to be underestimated.  concentration aura is very useful late game when peopel are going crazy with strike craft. vertigo is is useful for messing with enemy direct firepower (aka cobalts/kodiaks/ not strike craft or abilities) and vengeance is EVIL when used correctly. overall all the advent caps are very good. 

for the vasari everything they have is evil for caps when used correctly. i think my current fav is a rankulas and skiranta combo. get bot to lvl 6. SPAM nanites make a greater nanite. than clone the greater nanite. enjoy making lots of pain! another thing that is effective is cloning assault Nanites. watch as structures get murdered. right now my favorite single cap right now is the skiranta. it can heal itself. and do un godly early game bomber spams. keep all fighter on carrier. and use scramble bombers. pretty effective.

for the TEC obviously the marza is number 1. the sova is nice. good for early game. get embargo rush to their home and use it. thus killing their income well giving u a boost.

Interesting conversation.  But, I'd have to say that the all of the Colony Caps are almost a required first choice (Akkan, Progenitor, Egg).  Why?  Well, because each are a well rounded ship, that makes colonization so much easier.  Colony frigates are just not cut out for the task - they need better antimatter capabilities.  You can't colonize more than 2 jumps out without the frigates taking long, unacceptable delays.

Ofcourse, if you can get a Marza to level 6, then it is worth it.  Then your enemy needs to think about adding a Cap ship with a good interupt.  And once titans are out, Dunovs, Radiances and Kortuls are essential.