Whoa man seems you got the wrong Idea. Try looking at it in the long run. All I was pondering is could humanity pull it off and would it work. Not whether it would be right or wrong... furthermore there is no country on a multi-cultural level that wants us to "share wealth or make us all get along" (the closest is the U.S. gov't and even thats a bad example) and I never said there was. It is your kind of thinking that proves my point. There are too many differences in opinion that makes me wonder would it ever work. You have your ideals and I have mine. Both are based from what each of us thinks its right. We gained these ideals through the way we where raised. I am looking at it psychologically not politcally. Ethno-centrism is the way most people base what is the overall good. Morals can be completely different. I wasn't wondering if politically it could be done I was wondering whether humanity as an overall could ever accomplish this. There are many different benefits that we could gain from one gov't as well as many different things we could lose. I think that overall a united world gov't would only further humanity's long awaited quest for peace into a success. All I am doing is wondering. Just something to give someone esle to think about. That is why I didn't go anymore in-depth my friend. It's ok though different opinions like yours is what makes this world interesting. As far as giving power to the ultra-rich that as well is adding to my point. I don't think it could be done. Try and read into things not just look at it from afar and respond first. If you take apart something and look at each part individually you can get a better understanding for it i.e; your a bad critic. I never said difference of opinion was bad or culture or that government is designed to do "good". I'll say it slowly and simply for you, I am saying that people need culture and differences not that its bad o.k.? Now the next thing I am saying is that a united gov't could and probably would diminish those differences that you like so much do you understand now? Or maybe not keep your opinion its what makes you unique whatever. If we ever accomplish a united gov't it wont last long I can see that now.

"You can't have all humanity under one gov't and also have individual cultures"

This is exactly what I am saying for example:

"What separates us now is society and culture. The differences of opinion due to different ways of being brought up. Cultures differ greatly and its those differences that we all hang on to"

"I'll say it slowly and simply for you, I am saying that people need culture and differences not that its bad o.k.? Now the next thing I am saying is that a united gov't could and probably would diminish those differences that you like so much do you understand now?"

So you are agreeing with me on that, atleast.

"Jesus HAD to die because he was different and an empire can't have individual choice. A Jew Subject was kept in line by his own controlled theology as sanctioned by the Romans. Jesus was suggesting to Jews a new way of Jews living and it could not be allowed or control would be lost over the Jewish sector of Rome."

I partly agree with you on that but thats looking at it from a historical aspect. From a theological and biblical point of view he had to die because that was his destiny to die for our sins. He was Gods son and his death would change the way we Gods children were judged and forgiven. You can go both ways with that because you can either believe the bible as Gods spoken words to man or believe it to be a historical journal.

"Forgive me for reading your words improperly, but it seems to me you do premise that hunger,etc. is related to non-unity of all Peoples"

This is easy for me to explain. Hunger is not directly related to man's differences and division, but with that said I believe that with all mankind united it would be much easier to alleviate poverty and hunger with no worries about separate interests or wars. The worlds poverty stricken countries of today are only their own problems with the occasional help from the U.S. and England. With one government those problems would be everyones problems don't you think. It would no longer be that unnamed communist countrie's problem it would be our problem.

"I hold that it is useless to try to have peace between the Jews and Moslems until we take over a ship full of six-shooters, dig a massive pit, and let the neurotics- who think GOD authorizes them,as a master race, to kill all non-believers- have at it. Then the peaceful and true believers in God can bulldoze the bodies in a pit and get on with a peaceful life together. Likewise, we'd have to let all bullies beat each other to death, all money grubbers rob and rip each other off then burn the whole pile. Short of sterilizing them and destroying the source materials for such behaviors it would never end"

This is actually funny and depressing at the same time. So you think that the only way to achieve peace is through genocide. I believe most of these people's problems is lack of education. You take ignorance and teach it only one way to live and it is like a ripple affect, ignorance breeds ignorance. Muslim extremists are taught from birth to hate the west. Jewish people are for the most part arrogant but not terrorists. For both cultures they are raised to believe that what they do is justified and right. When all of society around you agrees on something teaches it and enforces it you aren't left with many options on what to believe. As Americans we are raised to believe in freedom and that there are many different ways of living and many different ways of thinking. That is what I think separates us. It's basic cultural relativism. What they do, they do with the ignorant belief that it is what is right to do.

"We have to know good and evil and choose to be good, or else it is just force."

I must say this is a great statement you made, but if you are raised to believe evil is good and good is evil and that is all you know and are subjected to you will believe it. I mean its not like they have advertising in afghanistan for reverend al sharptons sermons.

"One of the things I find believiable of the Holy Byblos, is that God chose one out to know and be good, and one has no control over it. He knew you would be or would not be 'saved' when he built the universe. He knew that Saten would try to defeat him and he knew he would win the battle and Satanists just delude themselves to tink otherwise. It's just the way it is and we delude ourselves to think we can alter His decision and 'save' someone or not do his will. He says he decided long before Judas was born he'd betray Christ and go to hell for it. Not fair or just, but who will tell God what is right? It has to be if he says so, and he lets evil have some for the joy of having those who Love him and 'choose' to not be so. I just thank my God for the grace of loving me and let him take care of such mysteries in his time."

If you love God you must also love all his children. You cannot state that you think all these extremists should just duel it out because these are our brothers and sisters dying and being subjected to such evil. If you believe in the bible and what it states than you should believe that a one world government will exist and it will bring peace for a short time. It's in the bible that the world will unite under one order, one monetary unit, and it will be peaceful for 3 years. God has also given all of us free will, even if he does know the future it is up to us to get there.

I truly think it will be a very arduous path. Extremists aren't born they are made. The only way to get rid of the problem is to eliminate the ignorance. You get rid of the ignorance and unity can be easier to obtain. The thing that makes me think is how to get rid of the ignorance. I just hope we don't destroy ourselves before we can reach peace.

Psychx, I must apologize in the first for writing this on your site, instead of mine, but I'd rather give you the points instead of myself.

I agree with pretty much all of your statements. Except for that I'm NOT 14, I'm an adult now. I really don't like getting messed up in "kid shit" (excuse my language), I am just easily offended, and that blog was kind of a... defensive act on my part. I'm pretty sure it made me LOOK like a little kid, but I felt like one, too, you know, the anger, misinterpretation, feeling threatened, all that stuff.

I agree with what you said, people should focus more on people who are actually in need, and that little tiff you witnessed is not what I like to do. I don't like constantly acting like a baby, thinking only about what happens to me...

I'm not bettering the world by trying to help people in third world countries, but I am trying my best to treat people better, and to get others to understand that they're not the only ones out there... It's not just all in my blog, either, it's something that I actively try to do.

Yeah. I'm not sticking up for myself here, I'm agreeing with your telling me and the other people responding to "grow up" in less words.

We should.

psychx,
a, your link doesn't work
b, when i corrected it, the page was empty?

Evolution of everything, including society, gov't etc. but I think our real situation is that society evolved Ahead of gov't. that is why the so-called grass roots is so important, because until society changes, gov't can't. dig?

Where we are at now, frankly, is kind of scary. We are evolvoing beyond our capacity to deal with ourselves, there is a real urgency in these post modern times. There are individuals who are in a real way on the "frothy edge" of evolving consciousness. It is they who are drawing a map for us. I think the important thing to recognize it that, alien invasion or not, we are here together and we need to coordinate where we are going. Short of that, there is a real possibility of lesser evolved faction of humanity with WMD capacity will amke decisionos for us and do so based on value structures relative only to their own stage of development. For me now, the big, "what to do?" lies in expanding myself as much as possible while lighting a fire in others as we travel together.

I forgot, the Where are we going part. And the "unanticipated massively chaotic sudden event" was formerly known as 9/11. It was a spark of lightning in almost everybody, moving each from where they were to something new, though generally without their knowledge. So we are now just beginning to discover that an awakening has already happened and we are in the midst of it. The new Theory (psych, philo, spirit, gov't, science, et al) is coming to be known in one language as 'Integral". You can get a feel of it just by the word, an integration of everything we already know while adding more every day. For me what is developing is this evolutionary model that gets away from distinguishing nations and cultures, and instead begins to unify them all. Previosly this has seemed like a pipe dream of idealists (self included), but recently it seems to have really caught fire as more and more people are coming together and recognizing each other and our RealCosmic situation. Enron, etc. is just more dust in the bin, but there is much work to do yet.

It resonates. I will be checking your site - hopefully you will post more.

Courage and Imagination are a powerful force, no ?

check the 'accellerated evolution' post. an example of integral music developing
http://bluedev.joeuser.com/index.asp?AID=7842

tangled wishes Im glad you agree with me you are alot more intelligent than I gave you credit it for it takes a real intellect to take someone elses criticism and consider it and then to agree and change your opinion thats a form of intelligence. Im sorry if I was harsh but I feel that there are too many people that are preoccupied with mundane things. If everyone strived to educate themselves and actually focused on current events their views and the things they placed importance would change and this would only be a benefit...

We don't live in Plato's Republic of the philosopher-kings. Even the people of the same race have different opinions on certain issues. What more with people of different states?
My liberal education in Economics would have instilled in me the marvels of globalization. But I never believed it. We can't just let the market take control of everything in this world. Social justice must always be humankind's guiding principle. It's a matter of putting equal weights on efficiency and equity.

There will be a big split on this issue. At the same time that we are becoming more global in our perspective, we are also becoming more splintered. There are so many different tribal wars going on throughout the world. It will be interesting to see who will win.

Anathema: The terrorists would have loved Rushdie in the twin towers!--they've been wanting to kill him for over a decade.
Keep up the idealism, Psychx. Tribalism must terminate--including our own.