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Kol as too... sissy.

Kol as too... sissy.

its a wierd complaint, but I think the Kol looks too weapon-deprived to be the TEC's forward battleship.

for instance, the forward 4 pylons that are meant to be cannons... they seem like the feelers of a bug rather than the massive, powerful, forward ion cannons of the KOL BATTLESHIP!
amongst other things it just seems like the Kol has no weapons, when in truth its the most powerful single ship in the game.
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Reply #26 Top
The KOL Battleship is one of oldest models in the beta. You can expect multiple revisions of this ship before release. The final size is unlikely to rival that of the Sova or the Akkan, however it's appearance will be 'battle hungry'.


Just don't, for the love of all that is great and good in this world, change the design of the carrier!   I think it looks great as it is! Off hand, I would say that it is my favorite looking ship design!   However, now that that's over with, I agree that the KOL could use some work (possibly as I suggested above).
Reply #27 Top
I thought perhaps I should ask a little nicer. Please do not change the carrier design, or I shall rain cleansing fire down upon your worlds! All shall suffer my wrath! My fleets shall... wait, didn't I say something about asking nicely? Sorry, I just can't help myself.  

"I sigh and push the button, and yet another world ends."
Reply #28 Top
Bigger doesn't always mean better.......


I agree. When the Spanish launched their armada way back in the day against Enland, England's smaller, faster ships managed to beat the larger Spanish fleet back. Storms finished off what Spanish ships were left. On a more personal note, I'd rather have two medium sized ships instead of one large one. Its more individual targets to destroy instead of one large one.

"I sigh and push the button, and yet another world ends."
Reply #29 Top
I agree. When the Spanish launched their armada way back in the day against Enland, England's smaller, faster ships managed to beat the larger Spanish fleet back

if you would, that is the reason the TEC should have numerous bulky ships and the Vasari should have the smaller, better ones.
how are you supposed to beat a bigger guy with a smaller ship if there are no big ships?
Reply #30 Top
Soya is the carrier FYI.
Reply #31 Top
does an industrial superpower ever have to conserve?
i didnt think so. I think you're confusing your races


Um, what part of "We are fighting a losing war" didnt you understand. They are losing planets, I dont think anyone would overspend when they have a chance of conserving.
Reply #32 Top
Um, what part of "We are fighting a losing war" didnt you understand

if you hadnt noticed, that had to do with mobilization of the economy for war, thats why they use converted merchant ships. I see no reason to believe that the TEC would be incapable of fighting off the vasari AND the advent, if they simply hadn't let their collective guards down.
anyhow, just to amuse you:
that would be the reason why you WOULDNT be conservative with your construction.
Soya is the carrier FYI.

thanks.
They are losing planets, I dont think anyone would overspend when they have a chance of conserving.

in wartime, thats generally a bad idea. especially if you are fighting a battle where you are on the defensive.
use the rainy day fund when its raining, dont bother saving it for when it gets worse.
Reply #33 Top
in wartime, thats generally a bad idea. especially if you are fighting a battle where you are on the defensive.
use the rainy day fund when its raining, dont bother saving it for when it gets worse.


Oh yes, it seems to be working fabulously in Iraq.
Reply #34 Top
Oh yes, it seems to be working fabulously in Iraq.


The issue in Iraq is a completely different can of worms and is focused more on social and political issues rather then military ones especially of the nature we are talking about with regards to this game. The humanitarianism, civil & religious liberties, governance and tolerance policies currently employed have really never been tried or implemented in a zone of conflict before and are severely hamstringing control capacities. So lets not go there as it is way off topic and will add nothing to this line of discussion.
Reply #35 Top
to drag it back on topic...

You want it bigger and badder, as in


or more like
Reply #36 Top
If I wanted ANYTHING in the ****ING WORLD

it would be a full-scale model of a fully functional awesom-nomatic version of that bottom ship. with every last doohicky and awesomajigger in package.

but yeah, I like the whole "screw pragmatic, this is big and bulky" type look.
Reply #37 Top
ZThe second image is very cool. It sort of reminds me of the ship from movie entitled The Blackhole. Something like that as a megaship would as well. I would however redesign the engine connections and have them attach at an angle towards the front as it would look more "manly" but otherwise it is pretty nice.
Reply #38 Top
Schem, please be more careful with your language.
Reply #39 Top
The top one is a Space marine battle barge (artist impression) from Warhammer 40k, the bottom one is the Roger Young, from starship troopers, It's actaully a troop carrier, but looks quite cool.
Reply #40 Top

Schem, please be more careful with your language.


Sometimes he gets carried away, we'll have to use the cattle prod on him more often to keep him in line.
Reply #41 Top


Schem, please be more careful with your language.


Sometimes he gets carried away, we'll have to use the cattle prod on him more often to keep him in line.


Ironclad just needs to implement the electrical shocks for pausing in multiplayer, then we can just use that
Reply #42 Top


"The Manta measures 630mm/25 inches long and has a wingspan of 860mm/34 inches! Weighing in at 12.5 kilos/28 pounds,"

It's from 40k, it's a tau manta. And it's only 895 pounds!!! Here is the link to the model:

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/acatalog/TAU_AIRCRAFT.html
Reply #43 Top


"The Manta measures 630mm/25 inches long and has a wingspan of 860mm/34 inches! Weighing in at 12.5 kilos/28 pounds,"

It's from 40k, it's a tau manta. And it's only 895 pounds!!! Here is the link to the model:

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/acatalog/TAU_AIRCRAFT.html


The Tau are sissys I cant even find their Empire on the galactic map

Sometimes he gets carried away, we'll have to use the cattle prod on him more often to keep him in line.


We all have to remember that Schem is a very vocal person with very little vocabulary, sort of like a drunken person trying to tell a story.



Reply #44 Top
The Tau are sissys I cant even find their Empire on the galactic map


Not to say that Tau aren't sissy here. Just to remind you that they are one of the best new species on the map currently. Grant they don't have lot of technology/influence, they do make rapid process with technology and among other things. They are kinda of make up of 3 different species(Tau, Kroot, Vespid, they even have humans as alliance whose existence is traitor to rest of humans).
Reply #45 Top
We all have to remember that Schem is a very vocal person with very little vocabulary

See, that's why we need sigs

Also, Tau ARE sissy. Now that that's out of the way, back on topic.
Reply #46 Top
Just to stir us in the right direction, I think this pic about sums up my feelings about the Kol



By the way, the two explosions are both enemy Akkans.
Reply #47 Top
let me point out that, unlike other people on this forum, I dont go throwing around malpropisms. I personally think using a limited vocabulary in its correct context sounds better than a wide, error-ridden vocab.
let me also take this second to point out that i've never been criticized by a dev for my language on an on topic thread. funny, in my opinion.

as for the Tau. not exactly the manliest of classes, but IMO they require the most skill. you must outmanuver your enemy or draw them into where you can engage them at close range with their allies, but if you try to just sit and snipe, or engage a forward force, you will be creamed, and then creamated, and then burned, and toasted, and recreamated.

you get the point.
Reply #48 Top
as for the Tau. not exactly the manliest of classes, but IMO they require the most skill. you must outmanuver your enemy or draw them into where you can engage them at close range with their allies, but if you try to just sit and snipe, or engage a forward force, you will be creamed, and then creamated, and then burned, and toasted, and recreamated.


Close range?

Tau are long ranged units, except for the Vespid and the Kroot.

I think what you mean is that they like setting traps, and dont hold fortified positions.

let me point out that, unlike other people on this forum, I dont go throwing around malpropisms. I personally think using a limited vocabulary in its correct context sounds better than a wide, error-ridden vocab.
let me also take this second to point out that i've never been criticized by a dev for my language on an on topic thread. funny, in my opinion.


It was a joke Schem, calm down will you.
Reply #49 Top
Tau are long ranged units, except for the Vespid and the Kroot.

yes, the vespid and the kroot are included in this generalization.
Reply #50 Top
They are sissy's, the only civilization in the galaxy that has to ally to survive.

Pathetic in my opinion.