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Pirates a bit too strong?

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Pirates a bit too strong?

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So I am just messing around in SINS, 1 enemy on easy, just taking some screen shots and stuff, and occasionally taking over an enemy planet...

And so I figured, I want a really good shot of the Pirate base.

I fly over 4 Kodiaks and 4 flak frigates, and low and behold at the pirate base I find... 191 ships...

Hmmm, a bit overpowered? Maybe...

I think the pirate base needs ship cap, say 50 ships at the max?

Multi told me I would have needed to control 30 planets to be able to have enough fleet slots that I could take them out...

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Reply #51 from Sins Forums Top
Correct me if I am wrong, it seems as time goes by and the pirates raid systems, it takes away from their home fleet.
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It shouldn't. The pirates spawn new fleets for each raid, and the defense fleet just idles about at home.
Reply #52 from Sins Forums Top
Damn, Kryo beat me to it.
Multiplicity - Control multiple PCs using one keyboard and mouse
Reply #53 from Sins Forums Top
I think pirates are too strong atm.
Reply #54 from Sins Forums Top
pfft they barely matter in medium to larger games. Or rather they can be a threat; but easily crushed; its just that its a liabillity to take the time to do so; I think it is nicely balanced right now.
Reply #55 from Sins Forums Top
Agreed!
Reply #56 from Sins Forums Top
pff kosc, 191 ships? no problemo.
Reply #57 from Sins Forums Top
No that looks about right to me - when I located the pirate base yesterday they have a gaffle of ships so I backed out of the base and set up a defensive position on the first planet they could jump to. I held them at this choke point while i built a large take over fleet and when I was ready I gave them the crushing blow. All in all , I liked the idea of the pirates having such a good fleet, it makes killing them more enjoyable
Reply #58 from Sins Forums Top
Pirates are too powerful in small 1v1 games. Their size should be smaller to reflect the size of a game.
Reply #59 from Sins Forums Top
pff please, kosc just bring in 3 > lvl 5 marzas with a lot of frigates as shields and blast away with missile barrage, bambo LOTS of points and a ton of very VERY dead pirates.
Pirates are too powerful in small 1v1 games. Their size should be smaller to reflect the size of a game.
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on the contrary, they are only really effective in 1v1s, and even then barely so.
Reply #60 from Sins Forums Top

Is it possible to tease a few away at a time?... or shell them all at long range and then run away? Or do you have to go in there and fight them head on?



There should be some late game tech that lets you just murder large numbers of ships at range... give a counter at the same tech level... But that would be the pirate ender.
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Heh, reading "ender" at the end reminded me of Enders Game, O.S. Card, and the doctor device in that. I'd LOOOOOVE to see something similar in SINS, it fits perfectly in with the alien race which I cannot remember the name of at the moment cos its 11pm and im tired, and blah, need to sleep. LOL...
Reply #61 from Sins Forums Top


Heh, reading "ender" at the end reminded me of Enders Game, O.S. Card, and the doctor device in that. I'd LOOOOOVE to see something similar in SINS, it fits perfectly in with the alien race which I cannot remember the name of at the moment cos its 11pm and im tired, and blah, need to sleep. LOL...
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It WOULD actually be pretty cool, but in the end it would REALLY suck!

*Ship fires Dr. Device

*Enemy fleet's Mazda Dreadnought explodes

Enemy player: WTF? ZOMG HAX!
Enemy player has left the game.


--Second example--


*Ship fires Dr. Device

*Enemy homeworld explodes, along with his entire fleet

Enemy player: OMG YOU HAX U BLU UP MAH SHSISISIQP!P!P!P!!!!PPP111 ZOMG HAX)230r!
enemy player has left the game.


Other news: 11 PM? Late? hhaha. 3 am is late. 11 PM is when the day starts winding down.




A cool idea would be rather than sending a massive fleet of ships to destroy an enemy i.e. current pirate raids, you'd have a few ships with buffed HP/attack/Shield jump in and destroy stuff.

for example, a pirate fleet would consist of 4 units with 1500 hp each and 1000 shields doing 20 dps.
Reply #62 from Sins Forums Top
i think it would be cool if the pirates got 1 unique flagship and it could be the Flying Dutchman or something like that...