Will Beta 3 have additional races?

the devs have declared they will not do so, as we are all whiny innatentive brats who cannot hold their attention on one goal for more than five minutes, that is unless they're stuck with a static system we've seen for 3 or so months.

In one word, no

Sorry

Only TEC, and Pirates will be in the beta's Ironclad wants to save the other 2 factions for "surprises"

sadness... but i think schod could cheer up a little while conveying the bad news

Oh Schod's never cheerful, too busy being god for that.

I really think other factions should be tested in the beta, for game balance reasons (especially if they want MP to be balanced).

Maybe beta 4?

the old sins site had a bunch of stuff on it about the other races, and if you paid attention to the press releases there are little snipites of the other races interspersed

Contrary to popular belief the races are being tested by the devs and also they are going through balancing. We just dont get them yet cause there are more important game mechanics to test, like multiplayer.

pff, doesnt mean I cant WHINE about it.

Oh, put a sock in it Schem lol

The devs have confirmed, and alas locked in stone, that we will not be seeing the other races until release. I'm sure some reviewers are going to get to play with them, we aren't.

oh saddness... ...   i dont know what else to say

hmmm... *starts working for IGN, Gamespy, Voodoo, and quite a few other companies*

This is beta test correct? How are we ment to test the game properly when only one race is included,the balance should be tested between races.I have never done a beta test before when most of the game is kept for a suprise.

Yea, it's a pretty weird reason.

We'll probably end up with quite some balance problems on release this way. Well, it's their decision.

I guess they could have beta 4 for balancing. Beta 3 for multiplayer bug testing.

One thing tho , if we concentrate on just balancing TEC well this beta , atleast this gives a solid measurement to balanced the other races against the next beta.

anyway heres how I see it.

The developers + small group (im guessing they will get some outsiders just to test it a bit) will be the only ones doing any real balance testing (in rts games most balance is issues between races, not mirror matches) and based on previous history of rts games, barely any developers have ever anticipated the most successful strategies and many of them dont appear when the testers are a small amount of people.

examples of games were the developers claimed to do a a lot of balancing testing and it backfired completely, cnc3:
they claimed to have spent more time testing than many other things and the game just became a spam fest of 1-2 units and is still far from balanced atm.
examples of games were the overpowering strategies at release were not anticipated by the developers or most beta testers, starcraft:
Zerg fast expo +mutas was barely used in closed beta (a few testers claimed they found it and didnt reveal it before the game went retail). In the first few weeks (when theres a factor of 10-100 more players things like that are found and maximized to the extreme) it was obvious that this combined with mutas..etc was extremely effective.

I'm not saying that ironclad developers cannot balance, but there is a factor of how many different games are played and by different people with completely different approaches.

Actually, we need to limit what's in Beta 3 because there's a huge number of variables when dealing with multiplayer.  By focusing everyone on that, we can try to make sure that multiplayer is actually solid out of the box.   Of course, by extension, that means that most of the multiplayer gameplay features are not present in Beta 3, so it'll likely be more painful than fun.

Beta 4 is the gameplay test for multiplayer and we will be releasing another race for it.

Yipeee!....wait, when is beta 4 coming out?

VASARI!!!

Ill bet its gonna be those evil Advents

correct me if i'm wrong but, a few of the old screenshots before we started beta testing, it seems that planets where a whole lot bigger on some of the old screen shots.

will the planet size be the same as is? or will it be resized and give it a feel of a real size planet.

*sry i have no time to browse back to where the old screenys are located*

i think to my hmo, vasari might be the next race introduced to sins next beta4. because in the story line, advent comes during a time when TEC are cought up in a struggle with the Vasari's strategic retreat. then thats when the Advent comes in and mess things up and make life a lot harder for both of TEC and Vasari.

I want vasari so it will be Advent