the final release will have the advent. of which we know very little currently. you might want to check out the rest of the homepage, the feature page and so for an overview.

I missed that...d



3, TEC, Vasari (both released, in part), and Advent (unreleased).

Galciv I and II, and Sins... haven't really played around to much with anything else. (What else is there? )

After playing my first game i was looking through the stats (graphs) at the end. I noticed the AI gained money from the black market....how did it do this?

Another bug:

The vasari subverter (Utility cruiser 0) can use its teleport disable ability, even though it is not researched.
The ability file is missing the research prequesite:

levelSourceType "ResearchWithoutBase"
improveSourceResearchSubject "RESEARCHSUBJECT_ABILITYACCESS_TELEPORTDISABLE"

Resources: you don't just buy 'em!

so far loving this game. Beautiful graphics, fun play, intuitive interface.....

Only problem is the story is a little dry as is, not really sure who is who or why or how...

Guessing the final version will clear this up. The tutorial could be a little deeper also.

Also needs a campaign mode, main game will have this, right?

read the lore for the story

as to the campain, "sins wont have a campaign in the traditional sense" is all we know, and dont let anyone tell you otherwise

I wonder what they mean by that? I mean, you eather have a campaign mode or you dont....

Without a campaign mode this becomes a strictly multiplayer game...not that that's a bad thing. But somtimes I feel anti social...

Also campaign modes help develop a backround story, they also provide scenario type combat.

I guess we'll wait and see, but if the beta is showing all Sins has to offer for single player, I can't say I won'td be a little dissapointed..

the AI will hopefully be massively better, plus more units and a new culture and diplo options. plus custom maps are currently disabled (not that some people arent making their own) and that should help as well

I'd still like a campaign mode, missions are fun.

On a different note...

Anyone have a basic stratagy yet? The scope of this game is pretty big and Im still behind the curve as to what to do and when to do it...

Do you goto colonize new planets quickly...or build up your homeplanet first?

do you hit the tech tree right away...or wait to get established?

I know there is more then 1 way to skrew a baboon but there always seems to be a more "correct" build order or whatever you want to call it. Take galCiv2 for instance....there are tons of ways to play and win, but certain guidlines should be followed no matter what victory you want to go.

1. Colonize

2. Build influence and military

3. Make break alliences

4. Work towards Master Plan


if you dont follow those steps your going to be behind...

so any suggestions for Sins?

nobody really knows the formula yet, you just have to practice practice practice

This was fixed in one of the beta 3 patches.

      










  

Geeze, sorry. I have played since early beta 3.

Touch-y

He wasn't yelling at you or mad or anything, he was just saying it was fixed. :NOTSURE:

What is the point of this post?

...anyway

it seems that colonizing shouldn't be the first objective as new planets drain income...

reasearch on the other hand seems to be benificial early

Also, maxing the home planets population early seems to help with income as does mining any unmined astroids..

scouting also seems to be important early, so you know what planets are/are not well defended.

The also seems to be some benifet to "creeping". (Creeping is a term I got from Warcraft 3 wich refers to going around with your hero(capital ship) and killing weaker enimies to gain experience before your opp can.

so what I've noticed so far, and please priovide some feedback, is...

1. Get Home Planet population maxed.

2. scout out weaker enimies

3. kill weaker enimies with capitol ship.

4. mine

5. research

6.colonize


from there it I guess it just depends. What do you all think?

I added a smiley just incase, I'm not mad at all. I enjoy being able to say that something you guys would like to see is in the game

Opps, I meant haven't plaed since earlier beta 3. I know it wasnt't in anger, n my comment was in jest my man. Damn you internet without your availibility for sarcasm and irony!

I really like someones idea of being able to combine ships into groups of fleets. Fleets should have Admirals that gains experience and improves the fleet as a whole.

Overall the game is stuck in between RTS and 4X and i think in doing this its left out the best parts of both types. The game would be epic if it was slower like the ships moved in Homeworld. This gives it the feel of LARGE ships fighting it out over huge areas of space. I know that this would make the games much longer, which is why its just a an OK suggestion. It really lacks the quickness of the RTS and the split second decision making and control. It has these features but they are weak at best.

The game just feels like a 4X with no depth or really slow RTS

I really have to dissagree with the previous post. Please don't make the ships move slower...

It may seem a little slow pased for an rts at first but when you have a few planets colonized the speed is perfect IMO. any faster and it would be to hard to keep up and any slower would be a yawn-fest.

Also its supposed to be in-between, you have great controll with the UI. Micro managing on a straight rts level would just be too tough when dealing with multiple battles. Yes, to sit there with a few ships going at it may seem a little slow but when 4-6 fleet on 3 different planets are battling the speed feels just right.

also about the voice inflection online...

[sarcasam]Learn HTML buddy!!![/sarcasam]

Also...can't you group ships into fleets? ctrl 1-9, and the capitol ships do level up, not only do they lvl-up but you get to pick their abilities!!

This is truth, but any of a class of ship will be equally capable at the highest level. To me its a bit more annoying to have to choose one ability over another for the moment when I will have them all by the end anyways.

I'm saying I know the formula.

that could never really work in an RTS

sorry, bug given the current speed of the game, thats a really really crappy suggestion. no! just no!

if you let the game progress to a turtlefest, yes it does become slow. but if you play properly, creating small detatchment forces to harrass your enemy it can quickly become a bit of a clickfest.

another (minor) issue: could you make the icons for asteroids and dead asteroids more different? I found myself often not looking closely in maps and then found I colonised the wrong world. I looked again at fire and ice and I see they are different, but not enough for my taste to see it at first glance. maybe the deads' symbol could be smaller by half.

*cough* lost a capital to the AI *cough*

Oh man am I sick...

dont feel bad Hard AI still kicks me around like an orphened brittish school boy