Can you enjoy the view ?

Exploration and commerce...



Ok, first of all, hello everyone... I am not a beta tester and completly new to the game.

I have looked at the high res.vids... It looks to me that the gameplay is kind of
zoom ins zoom outs, clicks,zoom ins zoom outs... The core of the gameplay is zoomed outed because you need to see the big picture especially when you are attacked from
numerous sides...

So are you playing little dots most of the time because you have to manage resources,building fleets etc.and you don't have time to enjoy the view very much ???

Am I wrong ? Or do you have the possibility to automate management and this way
explore the world and enjoy the view a little...Ok I may seem crazy a bit but I really
enjoy the scenery of space. I am completely astound when I look at Hubble's pictures...

Does this game offers me the possibility to be an explorer and a merchant with so much
resources to offer as the results of my explorations that most players would rather trade
with me than destroy me ?

Can I really win a game using diplomacy,commerce,cultural influence, and avoid combats
as much as possible ?

What do you think ?

Thank you,

All the best,

PL

  





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Hey Welcome, and thanks for watching the videos

Yeah i know i zoomed in and out alot, but thats one way of playing the game, which i guess most will be doing. But look at the left, there you see the empire tree which is great for all kinds of things that i didnt do for some reason
Im going to make a tutorial video at somepoint where i show how you can play the game more efficient by using just that empire tree.

The empire tree allows you to move fleets around, upgrading planet/asteroids and much more, this is while your view is on a battle.
You should check out the Brad's Beta 4 Review where we have some talk out it

So are you playing little dots most of the time
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You prolly played or seen Supreme Commander, and id say much less then that. Though zooming out is great to get an overview of it all.

do you have the possibility to automate management
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Yeah, when you send a fleet to an area where theres hostiles they will engange in combat themself. Also theres the option for auto placement of orbital structures, you just have to tell which has to be build.

Does this game offers me the possibility to be an explorer and a merchant with so much
resources to offer as the results of my explorations that most players would rather trade
with me than destroy me ?
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That really depends on the players, what ive seen most of them are hostile hehe. But yes it is possible to be one who is more into trade. Ive never seen a player asking me to let them be if they give me cash. But if i ever would, i would fine some agreement with them but dont think by that i wont hold an eye out for you, as you cant always trust your allices in a free for all game

Can I really win a game using diplomacy,commerce,cultural influence, and avoid combats
as much as possible ?
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you can win if all partys allies with each other. Win with culture. But i see it hard to avoid combat, as some players seek the path of war.

What do you think ?
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i Actually asked a fellow gamer to, what he tought the rating of the game would be on different sites if the game was released today, and he said 4-5 out of 5, or 9-10 out or 10.
I have to agree myself, been a tester since beta 1, and its been fun and still is
And since we still have alot to see, i can only imagen how fun it will be at released
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There is too much of an RTS in the current version of the game to try and play a peaceful approach to victory, alas. That said, there is plenty of time to enjoy the pretty pictures, if you want to, and you can also enjoy the pretty pictures in the replay mode as well.
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also, if you really like to look at pretty pictures and take a more relaxed approach to the game (which i do) you can always play on a slower setting <3

of course... nobody else wants to do that because they just HATE to have to save a game and reload it later...
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To fully appreciate the eye candy and detail that went into this game you must view it in replay mode. There you can pause, remove the UI, and icons at will. Relive your best battles without any annoying icons in the way
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In multiplayer, I think it would be really hard to achieve a cultural or economic victory. However, in single-player these are easier paths to take (more so with the upcoming changes to trade/diplomacy).
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There is too much of an RTS in the current version of the game to try and play a peaceful approach to victory, alas. That said, there is plenty of time to enjoy the pretty pictures, if you want to, and you can also enjoy the pretty pictures in the replay mode as well.
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Very very true. It will be interesting to see if any of the things we are missing will change this at all. But in most games you have time to see pretty battles.
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Welcome.

So are you playing little dots most of the time because you have to manage resources,building fleets etc.and you don't have time to enjoy the view very much ????
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Yep. Well, I do it that way. I have said before that when I play I sort of feel like a Harpy. Other players more or less told me to get over it. I guess I can say two things: the game is still in Beta so it might change a little (but I doubt it will change that much). Also, the other folks said something about recording the battles and reviewing them later. I can say if you do take the trouble of zooming in to watch its very cool, especially in a large battle.

Am I wrong ? Or do you have the possibility to automate management and this way
explore the world and enjoy the view a little.Does this game offers me the possibility to be an explorer and a merchant with so much resources to offer as the results of my explorations that most players would rather trade with me than destroy me ??
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Not really. Not in the way you are thinking. Try X3, Independence War II, or maybe Eve Online (haven't tried Eve myself) if that sort of stuff floats yer boat. At least in my limited playing experience, Sins is a strategy game.

Can I really win a game using diplomacy,commerce,cultural influence, and avoid combats
as much as possible ?
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Er, well maybe. If you can manage to make friends with everyone, or out-influence them you can win. But I can't imagine a cultural victory without some alien head-mashing and a pure diplomatic win would be booooooring. However, the diplomacy stuff is supposed to change a lot from what we've seen so far so maybe that will change. Why would you want to win peacefully? The alien smackdown is where its at, baby! This is a game about sin, not about love!

Just my humble opinion.   
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Cultural wins are doable. One desert planet as TEC with max culture techs and 9 culture centers. The proceed to raid the enemy culture stronghold that pops up to counter it. Once it drops they go poof real fast. You can't just win by pure culture unless someone is really asleep at the wheel, but it's easy with minimal warefare as opposed to wiping out and bombing down every gravity well on the map. Just advance through their territory, building more and more culture centers on each planet you flip, they wont have room for anything else to combat it.
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I haven't seen much benefit to culture victories per say, but the benefit to you own planets is always a plus.
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I haven't seen much benefit to culture victories per say, but the benefit to you own planets is always a plus.
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well, i managed to pretty much pwn emp with it (mostly because he had pirates attacking his ohter world too, and then the pirates went and defended the desert i stole from him ^.^
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Trade and exploration already play an important role in accelerating your position in the game. Exploration, culture, and most importantly, diplomacy will play a much more signifant role as the game advances in development   
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Flipping a maxed out terran planet instead of bombing it down and recolonizing isn't an obvious plus? That map with the terran/ice/asteroid pattern in a circle around the star with two deserts and a volcanic off it is a perfect map for it. Stack one of the deserts with culture production and attack one of the enemy homeworlds when your culture reaches them. They wont have the slots to stop it from moving even if they start converting research stations into culture production. Very shortly after wiping out their defenses, you'll flip it, and probably continue flipping them till the side is finished off.
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Flipping a maxed out terran planet instead of bombing it down and recolonizing isn't an obvious plus?
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Given that development and population is reset.. not really.
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ron has a point that ive been wanting to make, I think development should drop SOMEWHAT and that population should drop SOMEWHAT from people leaving and wahtnot, but a complete elimination of everything is kinda... dumb?
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The population doesn't actually zero out does it? I know you lose the upgrades, but I was sure it stayed at max population as opposed to 10 or whatever it is they start with newly colonized.
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well, i managed to pretty much pwn emp with it (mostly because he had pirates attacking his ohter world too, and then the pirates went and defended the desert i stole from him ^.^
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That was not a fair game, and you know it eets. You and thrawn teamed up against me from the begging

I liked the battle over my asteriod though and overall the game was fairly fun, especially the part when my culture started pushing yours back.
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The population doesn't actually zero out does it? I know you lose the upgrades, but I was sure it stayed at max population as opposed to 10 or whatever it is they start with newly colonized.
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Nope, its like bombing the planet, everything goes.
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Sad... I gotta actually pay attention one of these games.