flak in space?

Just consider it a generic term for anti-fighter weaponry -- thats what its used as in most sci-fi these days.

Well, it eventually will stop due to gases being released due to the temperature.
Gases and debrey will also help stop it.
And lastly (given enough time and conditions) light will stop it.

I think the shock wave from the explosion is what is suppose to damage the fighters.

Besides, the flak's pretty weak against ships as it is and as the ball of flak expands out, less wil hit any ship it happens to run into and pretty soon only like one or two pieces of shrapnel are hitting another ship and that wouldn't cause damage in theory.

Once again this is just in general not just for sins. However will not the flak be traveling at high velocities?

yes but think how thick the armor of the kol battleship is what are the chances of a peice of srapnel the size of your hand going to get through it at explosive velocities (well if it was going fast enough with enough force it could go through anything)it would brobly just bounce off or crumple but to the light fighter it would probbly rip it apart and puncture canopies and all that so i think of them as time delay srapnel bombs

wrong on all accounts... but the effort is appreciated

basically flak would be no better or worse because we would have better explosives, but they would expend energy much quicker than would the same flak round in atmosphere.

I'm trying to spread mis-information so that 10 year olds think they know everything, and unknownly spread humor.

Thanks for ruining it, you anti-humor schod.

ah, well I cant have you spreading holiday cheer!

Well, you could get a lot more bang for your buck because you don't have to worry about how big your flak gun is - no friction, constant speed. The projectiles will keep going at the same speed too. So I'd see it as MORE deadly - but then again, any serious spaceship would protect against flak because micrometeor impacts are so common.

but fighters ,usualy being inside a larger ship, wouldent have that kind of pretection and would get riped apart correct?

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Did you write your statement wrong or were you being extra sarcastic? How does a item expend energy quicker in the vacuum of space? Compared to the atmosphere, air and gravity?

Flak works just fine in space, and yes friendly fire would be an issue for friendly fighters. That is why germans obviously lifted their barrage just before their fighters would engage US bombers.

The only difference in space about flak is that you would not hear anything unless it hits your fighter, because sound needs air to vibrate your inner ears.

your right, I was being scientifically incorrect to be less complicated for the layforumite.

its the gas expansion that would be an issue, it doesnt do much good to have a weak shockwave if you dont have a dense gas, so it requires a strong shockwave if you have a less dense gas: especially so if you're supplying your own.

no it doesnt, for aforesaid reasons.

I find it funny that you know the reason why flak wouldnt work nearly as well, but you dont apply it to the situation

hilarious

You don't need atmosphere to launch shrapnel anymore than you need atmosphere to use a missile. There are plenty of current solutions for explosives in a vacuum, all the good stuff is self contained.

As long as their is force to start the flak pieces traveling, they will keep on going.
Theoretically there would be systems on cap ships to protect against any impacts at all. Otherwise they all mayaswell be big fat one shot one kill targets if hit by anything. Consider how fast things would travel without terminal velocity. Offcourse once the acceleration forces of the explosion stopped that would be your top speed.
Don't quite know what kind of armour you would need to stop a projectile travelling at 200,000km per hour though.

flak isnt about the shrapnel, its about the small burst that shreds armor, the explosion NOT the metal.

Shush, don't give him ANOTHER name change idea. He changes his name too much as it is.



Since when did you become so observative

you sure there was no shrapnel?

not none, but its not significant.

Unless, Jesus says so.

Umm, not to burst anyone's bubble, but flaks effectiveness has little to do with the explosion of the round.

True, if the explosion occurs very close to the aircraft (historically speaking) then yes, it would cause significant damage, but the true purpose of flak was to fill the sky with razor sharp pieces of metal. In WWII, the Nazis fired massive amounts of flak at Allied bombers. The idea was that the pieces of metal would hang in the air for several moments after the fuse detonated, and the bomber would fly through this "cloud" of debris. The metal would be sucked into the engines and shred them. Granted, the metal hitting any part of the aircraft was bad, as it created holes in the airframe and could injure the crew... hence why they invented the Flak vests.

So, basically, flak is like a Fragmentation grenade for the air.. its not the blast that kills everyone, its the flying debris. Same thing with flak.

My understanding is that, well... it varied. "Flak" actually refers to a fairly broad category of guns (that is, anti-aircraft guns). HE and shrapnel rounds both had their places.

And yeah, the flak will pretty much keep flying in its original direction. Doesn't matter much, given that the probability of hitting one is going to be inversely proportional to 4*pi*r^2. Still a chance of encountering the stuff at distance, of course, but it quickly becomes unlikely. Look at it this way -- the energy expended in any flak explosion is going to be on the same order as any other Sins projectile (say, a missile). The difference is, that energy is going to be spread over the surface of a large sphere (in the case of flak-at-a-distance) as opposed to a very small one with the missile.



As mentioned, fairly irrelevant -- we know the armor can take that and then some, given that the ships are throwing more massive, and likely faster stuff at each other

and the fact that the shields probbly even when unable to stop the larger (stuf probbly work by absorbing energy (kinetic or otherwise)) can stop those peices of shrapnel and what tsed said