the planets


do differnet planets do things better than other planets. Like does a desert planet produce more credits than ice planets and ice planets produce more crystal or what? and are asteriods not as good as planets? or are they the same.

also i dont totally understnad why there has to be gas giants that arent colonizable and stuff. Like whats the point of having them?

sorry if these questions have been asked already but please answer them thx.

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do differnet planets do things better than other planets. Like does a desert planet produce more credits than ice planets and ice planets produce more crystal or what? and are asteriods not as good as planets? or are they the same.
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Yes :P Terran planets have the highest populations, netting you the most credit income. Desert planets have the most logistic points, letting you build up a lot of civilian buildings in their grav wells. Ice planets have a lot of crystal mines. Volcanics have a lot of fleet points (though sounds like this is changing).

Like whats the point of having them?
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Anything that goes boom around a gas giant does an area effect explosion ;) There are several uncolonizeable objects that have tactical uses - some ground fighters/bombers, others prevent antimatter-related abilities from being used.
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asteroids give little of anything, but provide a decent source of metal

ice worlds give a lot of crystal ( needed for research and some ships) and also respectable population (for credits)

terrans give most population i.e. most credits

volcanics give most fleet slots i.e. ship capacity

desert worlds give lots of logistics capacity, so you can build factories, trade ports, research stations, pretty much everthing there.

dead asteroids let you build defensive structures but have no resources and support no economic infrastructure. they serve as a strategic node to protect and delay other worlds.

uncolonisable planets exist to have a neutral battle ground. they have abilites too, so its often interesting to intercept an enemy there. in general it provides a break from always having to fight at either your own planets or your enemies, its then neither offense nor defense and doesnt give bonus to anyone (excpet for the effects of neutral worlds' effects).
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ok thats cool thx for the answers. I hope they tell you this in the game and in like a strategy book or something.
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There's going to be a manual ;)
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THere have been some new additions, like wormholes, and with the Fleet points now dependant on supply no one is quite sure what the volcanic panets will do now.

Desert planets seem to have gone up in usefulness now!
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Unless, of course, the "fleet point building" (if there is one) isn't logistics based, but some other quantity-based (of which the volcanic planets might have more of).

We just don't know yet.
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guys thats still just a rumor, for all we know hte research could be minor amplifications to the already existing system. maybe the volcs arent changed significantly after all!
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11 days and 1 hour and we find out lol. "sleeps to pass the time"
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quote]Unless, of course, the "fleet point building" (if there is one) isn't logistics based, but some other quantity-based (of which the volcanic planets might have more of).
We just don't know yet. [/quote]

On another post it was let known that the fleet points will be done off of research. THis way even if someone loses his planets then the fleet still will not suffer.
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ok, please find me the post because of the dozens of people I've asked this about (literally dozens) none have come up with a conclusive statement about it.
I still think what you're talking about is extended word-of-mouth and altered memory.
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I've got to much to do to find the post, but Schod, fleet points are based on research now -- Kyro or Yarlen or some such posted about it.


Anyway, if you feel like finding it -- just look at your own posts, they did it in a thread shortly after you said it was only a rumor.
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ok, please find me the post because of the dozens of people I've asked this about (literally dozens) none have come up with a conclusive statement about it.
I still think what you're talking about is extended word-of-mouth and altered memory.
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You even posted in it.
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I was under the impression that since you need planets for the research stations, if you lost the planet (and stations around it) you lost the ability to make more tech from that tier. I seem to recall someone saying that is how ships work. But this would mean that losing planets will still lose you fleet capacity points (if the planet had a logistics building).

For fleet capaciy to be based on research, and for losing planets not to be a big hit fleet capacity-wise, perhaps once you unlock higher fleet cap you keep it regardless of what planets/structures you may lose in the future. I dunno if any oher techs work like this, but for something as vital as fleet size perhaps they bend the rules on this.
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I believe they said you could stop making the units that tech level requires -- no mention made of abilities being effected.
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For fleet capaciy to be based on research, and for losing planets not to be a big hit fleet capacity-wise, perhaps once you unlock higher fleet cap you keep it regardless of what planets/structures you may lose in the future. I dunno if any oher techs work like this, but for something as vital as fleet size perhaps they bend the rules on this.
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That's how it works in the betas. Once you research a technology you have access to it even if you lose research stations / planets - you just can't research more things on that tier until you build new research stations to replace the ones you lost. I haven't heard that they changed this for the final release so presumably it still works this way.
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ok, please find me the post because of the dozens of people I've asked this about (literally dozens) none have come up with a conclusive statement about it.
I still think what you're talking about is extended word-of-mouth and altered memory.


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thanks anny, must have glided over it. Yarlen's posts are usually dodgy or vague :P
well in any case his answer was very unclear, he said "directly". while that probably means its more connected to logistics points, its not definite in any way.
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guys thats still just a rumor, for all we know hte research could be minor amplifications to the already existing system. maybe the volcs arent changed significantly after all!
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I like Schem's idea.

Lets hope its true.
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It shouldn't. Now that it's not tied directly to the number of planets you own you'll at least have a fighting chance most of the time
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Ergo its impossible to be anything like the current system.

Edit: I don't know where it is, but there is a post about it being based on research floating around, too.
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Look in the "Two week until release" post by frogboy, bottom left pic. One of the text boxes.

Its the clearest Ive seen it said so far. I just haven't seen if or how you advance "up" the logistics tree. Whether its building logistics buildings or upgrading planets, or whatever kooky idea Blair came up with. :P

found it: Link
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Ergo its impossible to be anything like the current system.
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ergo its probably not anything like the current system:

again, its Yarlen we're talking about here, has there ever really been a time where he hasnt been dodgy or vague? I dont think so.

we have no solid evidence so far (yarlen counts, but for very little) and even if all of their statements are factual and clear, it doesnt mean the system is entirely abstained of planets.
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We have pictures!
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Schem,

Did you not even look at the pic I posted a link to in my post just above yours? OK, well spoon fed it is. I'll extract the appropriate text and re-type it here just for you.
Research fleet logistics to get more capitol ship crews and more fleet points (to get more ships)
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For emphasis, he said
RESEARCH FLEET LOGISTICS TO GET MORE FLEET POINTS.

Heres to hoping that clears up the issue a little bit for you.
Kilumanjaro
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Kilu yarlen is famous for saying "now you can place objects in 3-D" when what he really means is that objects are placed, then moved randomly a few degrees upwards or downwards

having been with him for almost a year and never gotten a straight answer, I dont trust this one fully here either. All I'm saying is that there is PLENTY of room for interpretation on this one.

you just cant accept when I said "your in all likelyhood right". if thats not good enough for you then stop lecturing me about being arrogant, because you havent shown much tendancy to the opposite.
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your in all likelyhood right
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Not when you didn't say it in this thread, and are bull-headedly convinced your right about it being similar to the current system, when they've clearly said its been reworked, its been changed, and other various things to that effect.