Im angry

Um, what is the problem?

For retailers. Most likely due to translations, I guess.

I'm from the EU also (Germany), so I feel with you. However, you can use either a credit card (not very common, at least in Germany) or PayPal to order online. You get instant access to the download and the CD as well, if you want to pay for shipping.

However, I'd suggest you start the download early in the morning, later in the day the US servers seem to be favouring downloads from the wrong side of the Atlantic.

Whow matey clam down please. Its not that Stardock didnt do their utmost best to find an European publisher. There is non who take their game Its not their fault you dont have a cc or paypal account or that you dont know anyone who has one.

Get inventive and search for one who has a cc or paypal account.

I'd be interested to see where you're getting that date from--chances are the store is either importing or incorrect.

We've been trying to get a Euro publisher on board for some time, but none of them believe the German market (biggest for PC gaming in Europe) will support a Space RTS right now. As such, no publisher means no native Euro retail for Sins, unfortunately. So importing or direct-orders are really the only option for European players.

Can you be Kryo from Supcom? leader of a guy from VoW? voices of war?

so that's why i see so many german players on SupCom, always wondered...

Nope, he's just an impostor, like so many others that have appeared in the eight years I've used this nick

People in Germany don't have credit cards?

Geesh, calm down. Why would anyone be angry? If you don't have a credit card, speak to a friend/family member who does. It's not rocket science.

Downloading on Monday at the stroke of midnight (yeah I know it isn't going to be that easy - I just want to play it by the time I get home from work lol).

It won't be available monday at midnight... it gets released sometime monday afternoon. Late Afternoon.

It's really uncommon. You simply don't need it. Online stores usually deduct the money directly from your bank account, and offline stores accept EC cards (the ones you use to draw cash from the ATMs). Those cards (actually they're MaestroCards, division of MasterCard) are usable more or less all over Europe and contrary to credit card they don't cost a yearly fee and everybody with a bank account (Giro) has one. So, really, there is no need for credit cards.

that's pretty cool

i dont have a pay pal account .. my brother does so i use his account and pay him back.. TA-DA problem solved...

in fact in this third world country i live i can only dl games via paypal... by the time the game reaches the stores i'll be long dead...:D

like with quake4 everyone got the game and started playing while i pre-order it here and waited 4 it to reach the stores...

after 3 months i get a phone call that the game has reached the store...rofl u wont belive the amount of cursing that guy heard... something like " u call this PRE-order? u stupid #$%^ go %#%# urself u #@%^#@ of @$#% ^%%^% "

u are angry? u european dudes with ur high speed internet...

what i pay here 4 1.5mb u pay in europe for 10 mb...

lol now im angry...

buttom line i only do digital dl with paypal its fast and i cut the middle man which is retailers and stores with stupid backorders etc.

long live pay-pal!

Can I move to Europe now?   

Actually, my main reason for not getting a credit card is simple bookkeeping. EC cards / PayPal work instantly on my account. I don't need to keep track of what I paid until the CC company sends me a bill.

So, call me lazy.


Back on topic:
I don't know where you live, but if you're inside the DACH zone (Germany, Austria, Switzerland) try www.okaysoft.de

It's an import, 47 Euros, but they say available from 8.2., with shipping basically the week after the US release. Would be good enough for me...

NOOO!!! Don't listen to him, its all a clever plan by the Illuminati!!