The Three Races are Like...

Someone tell me if I'm wrong here...

from Sins Forums
It seems to me that to put the races into MMO or RPG equivalences that the TEC are basically fighters, the Advent are mages/buffers and the Vas are rogues.

TEC get hard hitting ships with plenty of money. Some of the hardest hitting (non-tech'ed) ships around belong to this race. They are pretty straight up DPS'ers and their endgame cannon is THE thing for damage. Two shots from it and you can kiss your homeworld adios.

Advent's strength comes from ships buffing other ships. Heals, shields, Resurrection, etc. And the endgame cannon here is all about culture? What? But hey, it works, right? Two or three shots from the Advent's Love-Bomb and your people aren't gonna want to hang with you anymore. And no Advent ship gets hurt while they take over your ex-planet.

The Vas are the rogues. Stunlocks, quick transportation and getting their buddies to come mess you up. And don't forget that with three endgame cannons they can keep all of your planetary defenses useless for 9 out of 10 minutes. Buh-bye.

Am I about right here?
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Reply #1 from Sins Forums Top
I don't remember rogues being able to tank for damage... Damn rogues.

Anyway, you got the list all wrong.

TEC are merchants who would sell their own mothers for credits and have ship designs of "Durr, me big and hit you. Hurr Hurr Hurr."

Vasari are pansy cowards who run when they can't hear mommy anymore. Their ship designs rely on a woman's strategy of throwing things at you or disabling engines so they can run away better.

Advent are ascended gods. We shoot beams of pure, divine light that will either free your body from sin or purge you like the heretic you are.
Reply #2 from Sins Forums Top

I don't remember rogues being able to tank for damage... Damn rogues.

Anyway, you got the list all wrong.

TEC are merchants who would sell their own mothers for credits and have ship designs of "Durr, me big and hit you. Hurr Hurr Hurr."

Vasari are pansy cowards who run when they can't hear mommy anymore. Their ship designs rely on a woman's strategy of throwing things at you or disabling engines so they can run away better.

Advent are ascended gods. We shoot beams of pure, divine light that will either free your body from sin or purge you like the heretic you are.
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There's a biased opinion if I've ever seen one. I wonder which race he plays? hmm....
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Reply #3 from Sins Forums Top
ROFL! Not only biased, but sounds like he's not in a Valentine's Day mood at all.
Reply #4 from Sins Forums Top

ROFL! Not only biased, but sounds like he's not in a Valentine's Day mood at all.
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Shut up. I've got three midterms, two assignments, and a presentation to give tomorrow and I'm trying to procrastinate as much as possible. DAMN YOU UNIVERSITY LIFE!!!!
Reply #5 from Sins Forums Top
Vasari are nowhere near cowards, and when upgraded and in even numbers they will kick those panzy advents in the ass.
Reply #6 from Sins Forums Top
I don't think you can really liken the races in this game to classes, since they all do just about everything. You listed heals as an Advent advantage, but everyone has them. Shields, same. I think advent have more 'stunlocks' than Vasari. TEC ships unupgraded aren't really any harder hitting than anyone else (actually, their LRM frigate (a ship based on long range dps) is less dps than the other two race equivalents) :P
Reply #7 from Sins Forums Top
Durikkan:

All ships of all races are more or less exactly the same at the beginning of the game. Well, except for Advent because while the other races get marines, we get zerglings. Advent can Zerg rush. +1 for Advent. And our zerglings suck your antimatter and give it to those who more righteously deserve it. As if we needed more cause to rejoice over our awesomeness.

But there are significant differences. Everyone heals differently, much like how a warrior drinks potions, paladin casts heal, etc. Sure, the Vasari, pansy cowards that they are, have this tiny radius hull regenerating ability on their carrier capital ship (since obviously ALL their ships are with their carrier, ready to jump out at even the slightest sign of pain). TEC have a hull regenerating ability on their support ship, but you need more than one and is a tad bit slower unless in huge masses, a clear sign of their philosophy of "Durr, me build more and it good yar."

The Advent, as a sign of our supreme intellect, have obvious avoid such stupid situations by focusing a huge, HUGE circle of shield regen around our mothership. We then amplify our aura defense with our Iconus guardians with 33% shield damage negation dispersal. Since the best way to avoid taking damage is to avoid taking damage in the first place, we, the supreme Advent, are the only race capable of zero losses in any combat situation outside of a noncowardly Vasari missile hack. (Ha! As if such a thing exists.)
Reply #8 from Sins Forums Top
All of the TEC ships unupgraded hit like pansies compared to Vasari ships unupgraded.

Where are people getting their info??? If its from "personal experience", then thats completely misleading if you don't understand why your ships are more powerful than the other races. Against the AI, 6 hours into the game, if they are not a research personality, then they'll barely be above the 3rd tier in military tech. So ALL factions ships appear "more powerful" than the others if you go by "personal experience".

And on that note, fully upgraded Vasari ships are weaker than fully upgraded Advent ships. Which means fully upgraded TEC ships still aren't the best.
Reply #9 from Sins Forums Top
*meh* I like both the Vasari and the TEC. I'd have to say the Kol and the Vasari battleships are about equal, but the Kol seems to have more forward firepower.
Reply #10 from Sins Forums Top

Durikkan:

All ships of all races are more or less exactly the same at the beginning of the game. Well, except for Advent because while the other races get marines, we get zerglings. Advent can Zerg rush. +1 for Advent. And our zerglings suck your antimatter and give it to those who more righteously deserve it. As if we needed more cause to rejoice over our awesomeness.

But there are significant differences. Everyone heals differently, much like how a warrior drinks potions, paladin casts heal, etc. Sure, the Vasari, pansy cowards that they are, have this tiny radius hull regenerating ability on their carrier capital ship (since obviously ALL their ships are with their carrier, ready to jump out at even the slightest sign of pain). TEC have a hull regenerating ability on their support ship, but you need more than one and is a tad bit slower unless in huge masses, a clear sign of their philosophy of "Durr, me build more and it good yar."

The Advent, as a sign of our supreme intellect, have obvious avoid such stupid situations by focusing a huge, HUGE circle of shield regen around our mothership. We then amplify our aura defense with our Iconus guardians with 33% shield damage negation dispersal. Since the best way to avoid taking damage is to avoid taking damage in the first place, we, the supreme Advent, are the only race capable of zero losses in any combat situation outside of a noncowardly Vasari missile hack. (Ha! As if such a thing exists.)
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Ok so the huge shield regen is less of a cowardly thing than the vasari's healing ability how? You just contradicted yourself with that one. Saying the advent's is great just because you use them. And you probably just think the Vasari's abilities are for pansies because you get your ass kicked by them. (IDK maybe you don't) but either way the HUGE shield regen and hull regen are the SAME THING!!!
Reply #11 from Sins Forums Top
U've all got it all Wrong... When the AI plays ANY Race they are all Loser cowards who run away like girl scouts
Reply #12 from Sins Forums Top
I don't remember rogues being able to tank for damage... Damn rogues.
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Actually, if they're specced and equipped right rogues can off-tank, though maybe not in heroics :p
Reply #13 from Sins Forums Top
Dunroth:
Ahh, you should be honored to trade... words with a being of such grace as the Advent. I guess our mighty race could stoop for awhile to attempt to... unfuddle your tiny little minds for a second so you may see our utmost glory.

You see, dear little alien, you make the mistake of assuming that our superior race cares such minutiae as... scarring of the ships or anything even hampering the perfect duronium shine polish on our hulls. With our, how do you repugnant gutless wonders call it? "shields" yes. Our auras alone are sufficient to repel any of those silly little attacks that you attempt to throw at us. In fact, what do you call it? This brutish alien tongue is so tough to wrap around... "shield regen" is merely a misconception on your part. I believe you refer to our beautiful orgies which are conducted on a 24 sol-Earth hour basis in the Progenitor Mothership which, through sheer beauty and tenacity, enhance our ship-based defenses.

This is of course, vastly different from your poulty-hearted... crude... repairing systems. Ugh. Sparks and nuts and bolts. Disgusting little creatures. The very fact that you dedicate so much effort into "repair" and "self defense" clearly shows how much of a priority your entire race on being defeated.
Reply #14 from Sins Forums Top
my infiltrator could evade tank in daoc as long as i was buffed 0_0 haha things couldn't hit me and then they died.


And because the way that full plate works, dex tanking is better than anything those silly fighters can do in d&d.. or at least it used to be.. ive never played this new edition yet.

Oh, and in nexustk rogue armor has higher ac than warrior armor=p

Plenty of precedent for rogues being harder to kill than fighters.

Though generally speaking the fighters, even though better at taking hits, usualy have more hitpoints/more ability to get smacked and still continue living. Whereas rogues while generally tougher, start dieing quickly whenever anything comes along that can bypass their trickery=P

Ninja tanks in FFXI, is another example.

Anyway, TEC are like terrans. And advent and vasari are both crosses between zerg and protoss, but in different ways, and at different times.

Just one day i would like to see the default 'humans' not be the central standard. I would like for them to be the massive hard hitting space brutes, or the lithe space mages, and let some alien become the all-rounder. I don't understand why humans are always middle of the road.
Reply #15 from Sins Forums Top
TEC are merchants who would sell their own mothers for credits
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they would not sell their mothers.

it would be more of a high intrest loan
Reply #16 from Sins Forums Top

Dunroth:
Ahh, you should be honored to trade... words with a being of such grace as the Advent. I guess our mighty race could stoop for awhile to attempt to... unfuddle your tiny little minds for a second so you may see our utmost glory.

You see, dear little alien, you make the mistake of assuming that our superior race cares such minutiae as... scarring of the ships or anything even hampering the perfect duronium shine polish on our hulls. With our, how do you repugnant gutless wonders call it? "shields" yes. Our auras alone are sufficient to repel any of those silly little attacks that you attempt to throw at us. In fact, what do you call it? This brutish alien tongue is so tough to wrap around... "shield regen" is merely a misconception on your part. I believe you refer to our beautiful orgies which are conducted on a 24 sol-Earth hour basis in the Progenitor Mothership which, through sheer beauty and tenacity, enhance our ship-based defenses.

This is of course, vastly different from your poulty-hearted... crude... repairing systems. Ugh. Sparks and nuts and bolts. Disgusting little creatures. The very fact that you dedicate so much effort into "repair" and "self defense" clearly shows how much of a priority your entire race on being defeated.
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Wow. You really need to come back to real life. I'm starting to wonder if one day you might actually think this game or things in this game might actually exist.
Reply #17 from Sins Forums Top
A rogue tank is almost as laughable as a lock tank pfft infact i'll just pop out my ice block mage and wtfpwn you all. anyway vasari just have to phase out your beloved mothership which i may add could be mis construded as much more godly power than simply charging up some energy field. Not to mention that if our missles fly through your shields and destroy the ship the lowly shields will only be protecting the scrap to add to vasari resourse pool. Im a bit drunk so if this makes no sence go flame somewhere else :)
Reply #18 from Sins Forums Top
If you ask me each race has its pros and cons... i think in the end i like playing all 3 because i can ues take down my enemys 3 differnt ways.... and if you believe you are one of the Advent just because you play the game... then maybe its time to put the game away and go back to doing your home work... i know collage is hard but please dont let it do mental damage... If i can be in iraq and play the game and not become someone else i think you will be ok... that or just seek help... i am sure your mommy and daddy that payed for you to go to collage will be happy to spend the money for you to see a Doc ok...
Reply #19 from Sins Forums Top

Wow. You really need to come back to real life. I'm starting to wonder if one day you might actually think this game or things in this game might actually exist.
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It's called "roleplaying". ROLEPLAYING! Geez!

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Reply #20 from Sins Forums Top
If anything is like an RPG its the Advent's capital ships. You have your tank/warrior in the Radiance Battleship, your healer and debuffer in the Progenitor Mothership, your long ranged ranger with attack + auras in the Carrier, and the two Battlecruisers are your offensive debuffers and crowd control.
Reply #21 from Sins Forums Top
I don't remember rogues being able to tank for damage... Damn rogues.Anyway, you got the list all wrong.TEC are merchants who would sell their own mothers for credits and have ship designs of "Durr, me big and hit you. Hurr Hurr Hurr."Vasari are pansy cowards who run when they can't hear mommy anymore. Their ship designs rely on a woman's strategy of throwing things at you or disabling engines so they can run away better.Advent are ascended gods. We shoot beams of pure, divine light that will either free your body from sin or purge you like the heretic you are. There's a biased opinion if I've ever seen one. I wonder which race he plays? hmm....
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lol...He has a point though :p
Advent are like the best 3VER!