We need Flak!!!

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hey all, (don't think its technical, so General is my best bet to put this in)

I recently looked at Sins' and found a flaw in the concept of the ships. The game keeps referring to homeworld and how it's the same almost. I agree with that statement to some extent. At least in homeworld the captial ships built had flak guns to help destroy the fighters and bombers. The captial ships in this game don't have any! Thus, making the bomber strategy the best. No matter how many captial ships your fleet has, if your enemy creates a drone type of fleet with fighter and bomber squadrons, well it'd be a good fight, but eventually the drone fleet will win. We need flak guns on our capital ships!! :D


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Reply #1 from Sins Forums Top
or apparently I built the wrong ships that have no flak guns? I think all cap ships should have flak guns lol :)
Reply #2 from Sins Forums Top
Or, OR...

YOu could

Wait for it. Waaait for it...


Stop using capships as your whole force and support them.
Sins of a Solar Empire: Rebellion
Reply #3 from Sins Forums Top
Yeah....there's flak frigates just for that purpose, capitals shouldn't be the do all-end all ships.
Reply #4 from Sins Forums Top
hahaha
Reply #5 from Sins Forums Top
Or, OR...

YOu could

Wait for it. Waaait for it...


Stop using capships as your whole force and support them.
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No but ... that would require thinking! About strategy!
Reply #6 from Sins Forums Top
I don't even feel bad, he walked into that one wide open.
Reply #7 from Sins Forums Top
No matter how many captial ships your fleet has, if your enemy creates a drone type of fleet with fighter and bomber squadrons, well it'd be a good fight, but eventually the drone fleet will win.
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Because apparently, when your capital ships are attacked by fighters, they get distracted and don't go after the carriers and just wait politely for the fighters to go away? :P
Reply #8 from Sins Forums Top
i recently won a 4 player ffa without researching or building a single flak frigate. i picked that up after checking the after action stats of my very first game, a 1v1 against the AI, wherein the AI didn't build a single flak ship. even though I had tons of bombers in my fleet.
this told me that the AI's internal logic, which is part of the game code itself, sees little value in flak frigates.
Reply #9 from Sins Forums Top
Flak is excellent at killing bombers and especially fighters. It fires in 4 directions at the same time and absolutely shreds with the amount of damage it does. It is basically the only ship you need if the enemy is going all LRMs and Strikecraft, since LRMs do 75% less dmg to Flak frigs than they do to Light frigs. Just support them with a capital killer type cap ship of your own and clean up those spammers before they manage to get more than 10 LRMs built.
Reply #10 from Sins Forums Top
Rufus is certainly taking a lot of Flak for this thread.

I guess he got his wish.
Reply #11 from Sins Forums Top
...Homeworld capitals were not noted for their anti fighter weapons.
Reply #12 from Sins Forums Top
hey all, (don't think its technical, so General is my best bet to put this in)

I recently looked at Sins' and found a flaw in the concept of the
ships. The game keeps referring to homeworld and how it's the same
almost. I agree with that statement to some extent. At least in
homeworld the captial ships built had flak guns to help destroy the
fighters and bombers. The captial ships in this game don't have any!
Thus, making the bomber strategy the best. No matter how many captial
ships your fleet has, if your enemy creates a drone type of fleet with
fighter and bomber squadrons, well it'd be a good fight, but eventually
the drone fleet will win. We need flak guns on our capital ships!!
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The Kol Battleship has an optional Flak gun, and the Halcyon Carrier has an equivalent, Telekinetic Push(or whatever it's name is).

And at certain levels, many cap-ships get free squadrons, so you can just base fighters off your cap-ships anyway to kill bombers.

Or the cap-ship can kill the carrier/hangar.

Or you can put some really advanced enigmas called anti-fighter(aka, Flak) frigates in your fleet. But that would need way too much thinking.
Reply #13 from Sins Forums Top
hey common now ladies n gents be nice eh haha.

Yeah! I still stand, Caps need more flaks! :)
Reply #14 from Sins Forums Top
Rufus is certainly taking a lot of Flak for this thread.I guess he got his wish.
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Haha. Nice.

I call for modding. I will look into this tomorrow and (attempt to) create a super flak destroyer for you.