You can't play two mods at the same time. You will have to merge them both into one mod. Merging can be difficult and time consuming. My mod has the Files that have been changed in a list, which is quite short as most of my files are new. You will need to see the author of Real Capital Ships and get him to write a similar list for you.

Conflicting files will need to be merged manually, which is easiest with a file comparer, I use a free program called 'Compare It!'. Good luck.

Thanks but that stuff is beyond my abilities, Hopefully someone out there will do it until then I'll just have to decide

Volcanic asteroids? More of a novelty thing I suppose, as they'd likely just be pulled into the star, but if it isn't too difficult, it would be a nice thing to see. Especially with TrueSpace; volcanic worlds with similarly melted orbitals.
Also, I like the graveyard idea, something I've wondered about myself. If the ships are to be capturable, does it mean that we may someday have marine frigates, for instance, that can dock with foreign ships and take them over, or landing craft that can take a planet without having to bomb it?

@ Asiriya
Mmm... that would be novel as Asteroid don't have cores. I won't be too difficult to do, but what unique and interesting traits would they have? I will start to cut down on the number of new planets after 1.3, as they are becoming more and more similar to ones already existing. I will instead improve and expand on existing ones.

I tried adding a similar thing to the pods that colony frigates send down when they take over a planet, but that only seems to work when targeting a planet, not a ship. I have just made the range on the Capture Ship ability very small, so you have to get very close to it.

Yea, this game needs to have a way to get more ships of varing types, like docking, deactivating, or anything else.

You need an acidic planet like Venus.

Too similar to Toxic I'm afraid. A Radiated planet may make an appearance in 1.4, but like I said, new planets are going to become a lot less frequent, and will only be included if they are dissimilar from the others.

@Uzii
Would capture ships be immediate? Like how u capture those mining facilities in non-colonizable gravity wells? Or would there be a delay?

Also can i ask what tools are u using to make this mod?

Thank you

It is immediate, but you must be very close, the ability has a small recharge time, and costs a fair amount of Anti-Matter. I think its possible to put a delay in, but with all of the above it would just be too much. I'm looking into disabling their shields before capture too, but I'm still working on that.

Edit: Tools? Well, I have been using Notepad++, Photoshop CS2, and recently 'Compare It!', a free file comparer.

@Uzii
Woah have you thought about allow players to capture ships whose shields are disable that has say only 20% of their hit points left?

High density zoning and full Terran Lockdown techs should also increase Urban planet population.
A new planet bonus could be Population Center.
Bonus:
+50 max population

@ Auggie
No. That is out of the scope for Sins Plus, and moving into altering gameplay significantly. I'm not even sure it could be done, as the number of 'Constraints' for abilities are very few. I was just thinking about making the derelict ships have their shields offline to begin with so it takes some time to get them into a combat-ready state.

@ IsotheWise
This has come up before:

My Response:

I don't blame you for missing it, I only remembered it on the off chance, and had to search for it.

@uzii

I see... also with regards increasing the value of the 'planetBonusDensity' on the map i want to play on in MP. Does it mean both my friend and I have to edit that value? Or only the host?

also: Any other sneak peaks of 1.3?

@Asiriya

I've tried adding in the ability to 'invade planets' and then capture them. But right now, whenever you capture a planet it destroys all previously built planet upgrades. It's effectively the same as 'bomb and colonise', except maybe for visual effect.

@ Auggie
I would strongly recommend one person changes it, and the other gets that exact file off him. This would avoid any desyncs that may occur.

I'm going to start on the Planet textures today, so maybe tonight (GMT, for all you yanks ;)) I will post a few shots. I might also throw in some shots of the derelict frigates that may also appear in the Graveyards.

@ Cassig
I think with these mod tools, it simply can't be done.

Cheers for the replies Uzii, Caasig.
As to what traits a volcanic asteroid might have, I don't know, as i said I'm not sure of their RL existence and so whether they should even be considered.

I like to make a play very specific galaxies that i make on galaxy forge. is there someone working on getting the new planet types to show up there, I'm new to plus but I'm already enjoying the variety but the control freak in me doesn't want make a ton of weighted random planets.



edit: Never mind i figgered it out. just copy your GalaxyScenarioDef.galaxyScenarioDef and paste it in the forge file.

@Uzii
Hmm what about if i made a map myself from the in game map creator (not galaxy forge) does that mean he automically downloads the map off me? Thus i dun have have to manually send the map to him (yes i changed the bonus density of that new map i made to 0.6 using notepad manually after i made the map)

With regards to volcanic asteriods wouldn't they be a piece of asteriod blasted off a volcanic planet due to either a collision with another planet or a comet hiting the volcanic planet? Thus i would suggest they have rich metal resources but maybe lower population (due to the heat and stuff). just my suggestions though

@Caasig

I am trying to figure that out as well its quite frustrating. If that can be done, lots of extremely fun things can be added to the game!

As a note, Uzii, you may want to consider nerfing the Naval Base gravwell buffs a bit. As it is they make for stupidly powerful chokepoints that large fleets will probably have a hard time breaking.

They're nice and all, but they do seem rather over the top.

Novaliths don't do much to them (you'd need at least two to kill one with a good planetary shield anyway, since Novas do 6k damage and the Naval has 10k base HP not counting anything it might get from bonuses and the shield) and the only way to clear out the defenses would be a massive volley of Kostura Cannon fire followed up by a Dark Armada.

@ Auggie
I'm not sure how maps are transferred, but it would be a lot easier if you just tried it yourself, and see what happened. If you have problems, then get back to me. I can guess and hypothesise, but only trying it will give you a definitive answer.

@ Exo
Duly noted. What would you suggest for the balance? 40%, or 30% perhaps? Or even less? I haven't had a good game in a long time, so any feedback would be welcome.

Hi Uzii, like your mod very much and thank you for the work u put in...mostly i do concentrade on mods that have SinsPlus integrated as it get's flower in the gameflow. Currently trying to do some maps including your planets and wondering if it is possible to 'mod' the stars either. Here i think about a 'dead star' so i could map a system only with uncolonizable planets, asteroids or wreckage...or probably a 'double-star' system or at least a supernova that eats-up all incoming ships.

In my eyes Sins has a lot of possibilities and options for further modding and challenging add-ons, as the basic game is quite good and charming.

So...what are your future plans regarding SinsPlus?

When I try to combine your mod with a simple mod that I made, the research bar you added along with the research buttons don't show up right like when I run your mod as a standalone. I added three new researchs for combat, but changed nothing with the civilian side. Do you have any idea why this happens?

New stars is a possibility. But there are only a few that would be significantly different from the ones in Vanilla. A Dead Star sounds good, but how would it be shown? A black texture, with no heat effect, and some strange ability? A Double Star is not really possible, as it would require modeling, quite a bit of it too. I was going to changed the abilities for each Star colour though, so they are slightly different from one another.

Future Plans? Well, there are a very select few new planets that I may add, and the selection of bonuses is high enough anyway, plus no one has given me any that are doable since 1.1's release. There will be a couple for 1.3, but after that, there won't be many more, unless they are very distinct. So instead of adding more planets and bonuses, I will concentrate on existing ones and improving them. I aim to give all planets, apart from the Vanilla ones, Abilities that effect either the planet or units/structures in orbit. Although these can't be randomised easily, they are ways to give the same effect, even though they are very long winded (copying large numbers of files with slight alteration to each). 3 of the new 4 Planets (one being the Graveyard, so technically not a planet) will have abilities, the Graveyard having a basic one just for disabling the ships to begin with, but the Swamp and Relic world's will have very interesting ones which I'm quite proud of.

Looking at about a week, maybe less for a Sins Plus 1.3 release now.

Edit: @ derbal213
Your first sentence isn't very clear, could you elaborate a bit? It works ok on its own, or with another mod? What did you change exactly? What version of Sins are you playing? Screenshots of what you see would also help me help you.

The idea of different stars having different abilities sounds interesting Uzii. Blue stars are the hottest, with red or yellow being the coolest I believe, so would it be possible to have a blue star reduce hull strength or population, for instance? Maybe even, if its possible, a black hole that would automatically destroy any ships that jumped into its gravity well.

Yes, I was going to have one of them reduce hull and shields slowly, and the Blue ones sounds best. I could do something similar to a Black Hole, but I won't be able to model one, it would just be a star that looked different. If anyone can model a Black Hole, then go for it Also, the stars will only effect, and can only effect their own Gravity Well, no ability I have seen causes system-wide effects.