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LAG

February 28, 2008 10:57:18 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire ForumsSins of a Solar Empire Forums
Ok i go onto servers and i lag like crazy. I have cable internet and Vista so u should be able to handle the graphics. I play a couple other games online like CSS and i can play on 40 man servers without any lag. So can some one try to help me make the lag go away.
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Reply #1 February 28, 2008 11:08:49 AM
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The lag depends on the path between you and the servers/the people you play against.  Try this:

Start -> Run -> Type "cmd" and hit enter.  In the command window type "tracert ico.stardock.com".  If there's any hops that don't respond or that have really high numbers (>200ms) that's the problem.  Note that you probably will start timing out once you hit our firewall, but that's normal.

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Reply #2 February 28, 2008 11:14:58 AM
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So where do i type this in do u mean in game or some where else.
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Reply #3 February 28, 2008 11:20:16 AM
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start menu on task bar---->next to words all programs, or in the genral area of it is the word "run" click on that...

when the box opens in the area that allows for text type cmd and then hit enter
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Reply #4 February 28, 2008 11:23:42 AM
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Or try "Windows Key (The one with the windows logo on it) + R". This brings up the Run Dialog. Then type "cmd" and click "Ok". In the new window, type "tracert ico.stardock.com".
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Reply #5 February 28, 2008 11:27:16 AM
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dobble post due to your database going out on me while editing

In the command window type "tracert ico.stardock.com". without the "
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Reply #6 February 28, 2008 11:27:42 AM
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The highest i got was an 87. Should i add them all up or something.
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Reply #7 February 28, 2008 11:31:58 AM
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no just check each one.. 85 is not all that good for a cable conncetion

below is what it should be like with a cable connection (I get complates about lag from people when I host with these numbers)

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Mike>tracert ico.stardock.com

Tracing route to ico.stardock.com [38.98.152.153]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 * * * Request timed out.
2 7 ms 6 ms 6 ms ge-8-23-ur01.christianst.pa.panjde.comcast.net [68.85.195.81]
3 7 ms 6 ms 6 ms po-10-ur01.columbsblvd.pa.panjde.comcast.net [68.86.208.57]
4 11 ms 11 ms 6 ms po-10-ur02.greenwayave.pa.panjde.comcast.net [68.86.208.53]
5 8 ms 6 ms 7 ms po-10-ur01.greenwayave.pa.panjde.comcast.net [68.85.192.121]
6 8 ms 8 ms 6 ms po-20-ar01.wallingford.pa.panjde.comcast.net [68.86.208.49]
7 11 ms 15 ms 28 ms te-8-3-ar01.401nbroadst.pa.panjde.comcast.net [68.86.90.10]
8 10 ms 9 ms 9 ms pos-0-7-0-0-cr01.philadelphia.pa.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.85.13]
9 11 ms 13 ms 12 ms COMCAST-IP.edge1.NewYork2.Level3.net [4.71.186.22]
10 13 ms 12 ms 11 ms xe-8-2-0.edge1.NewYork2.Level3.net [4.71.186.21]
11 13 ms 11 ms 11 ms ae-1-69.edge1.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.68.16.14]
12 * 17 ms * COGENT-COMM.car2.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.68.111.46]
13 16 ms 23 ms 16 ms te9-2.mpd03.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.5.209]
14 16 ms 15 ms 16 ms te8-1.ccr04.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.24.138]
15 42 ms 44 ms 43 ms te4-3.ccr02.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.1.190]
16 43 ms 42 ms 42 ms vl3499.ccr02.ord03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.5.10]
17 43 ms 42 ms 43 ms gi15-0-0.core01.ord03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.3.245]
18 53 ms 52 ms 52 ms po2-0.core01.dtw03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.2.246]
19 53 ms 53 ms 52 ms vl3504.na01.b015487-0.dtw03.atlas.cogentco.com [38.20.36.214]
20 55 ms 55 ms 54 ms stardock-corporation.demarc.cogentco.com [38.99.219.166]
21 54 ms 57 ms 54 ms 38.98.152.153

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Mike>
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Reply #8 February 28, 2008 11:34:25 AM
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Damn i use metrocast does fire wall slow it down or something?!
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Reply #9 February 28, 2008 11:38:47 AM
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Tracing route to ico.stardock.com [38.98.152.153]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 11 ms 25 ms 26 ms d-65-175-202-1.metrocast.net [65.175.202.1]
2 11 ms 12 ms 12 ms core-65-175-142-18.metrocast.net [65.175.142.18]

3 11 ms 11 ms 12 ms blmtnh-vrf-02.metrocast.net [65.175.142.250]
4 11 ms 12 ms 11 ms pos-1-3.gsr.4-3.mnchnhcohba.seg.NET [216.107.222
.185]
5 13 ms 15 ms 15 ms POS4-1.GW8.BOS4.ALTER.NET [157.130.0.93]
6 12 ms 12 ms 16 ms 0.so-4-3-0.XL2.BOS4.ALTER.NET [152.63.17.18]
7 18 ms 19 ms 20 ms 0.so-6-3-0.XL4.NYC4.ALTER.NET [152.63.0.73]
8 23 ms 20 ms 22 ms 0.ge-5-1-0.BR3.NYC4.ALTER.NET [152.63.3.118]
9 49 ms 51 ms 51 ms po15-3.core01.jfk05.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.1
2.181]
10 * * 49 ms te9-1.mpd01.jfk05.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.24.
33]
11 48 ms 52 ms 48 ms te9-2.ccr04.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.0.
53]
12 47 ms 48 ms 64 ms te8-3.ccr02.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.7.2
06]
13 48 ms 50 ms 47 ms vl3491.ccr02.ord03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.6.
210]
14 59 ms 48 ms 47 ms gi9-0-0.core01.ord03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.
3.237]
15 56 ms 59 ms 59 ms po2-0.core01.dtw03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.2.
246]
16 59 ms 57 ms 59 ms vl3504.na01.b015487-0.dtw03.atlas.cogentco.com [
38.20.36.214]
17 62 ms 87 ms 58 ms stardock-corporation.demarc.cogentco.com [38.99.
219.166]
18 60 ms 61 ms 60 ms 38.98.152.153

Trace complete.
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Reply #10 February 28, 2008 11:55:15 AM
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As the game is peer to peer, your ping to ICO itself doesn't mean much (only affecting the lobby, really)--it's your ping to the other players in the game that matters.
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Reply #11 February 28, 2008 1:22:40 PM
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So how do I make my self lag less.
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Reply #12 February 28, 2008 1:29:28 PM
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At original poster

whats your advertised internet connection speed?

maybe that will help us get some insight into your problem
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Reply #13 February 28, 2008 2:01:32 PM
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Um not sure but i think its cable 10m.
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Reply #14 February 28, 2008 2:11:33 PM
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if its a 10 mb connection you shouldnt be getting that much lag ...
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Reply #15 February 28, 2008 2:12:50 PM
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:[ then why am i the only one in servers to lag???!!!

Oh and I said I think other wise all i know is I have cable.
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Reply #16 February 28, 2008 3:01:50 PM
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@ dracula7899

Firewalls, especially those SPI-type firewalls on some crappy cable/dsl modem/router combo's or soho routers (dlink, netgear, linksys, etc.) fragment game-data (especially for p2p connections). DISABLE them.

Other firewall software (other than the Windows Firewall which works fine with SINS) also costs network transport "overhead" which means it will increase latency.

Disable all (except for the windows firewall) firewalls and try again.

Also, If your cable/dsl mode isn't JUST a modem and also happens to be acting as a router you will see increased latency in p2p gaming due to "stricter" NAT controls.

Please read my newest guide linked-to from the bottom of the "Technical FAQ" in the sticky in the "Technical" forum.

thanks,

the Monk
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Reply #17 February 28, 2008 3:11:25 PM
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Weird I seem to only have windows firewall. I realy wonder what is making my lag???
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Reply #18 February 28, 2008 3:26:58 PM
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you have 10meg download but you most likly have 756k upload.. so that will slow you down as well, also open all your ports as this will allow you to reseave more date at any one moment and if you have a voip detatch it from the network.. I have to detatch my vontage router or it kills me big time..
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Reply #19 February 28, 2008 3:42:09 PM
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Um....... I have no clue what half that stuff is. Oh well ill just play single player.
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Reply #20 February 29, 2008 7:31:24 AM
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are there any issues with nvidia 8600 256 ram cards that we know off
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Reply #21 February 29, 2008 10:58:57 AM
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Hop 10 had issues, but yeah, overall it's not bad looking and once you get a game going your connection to ICO doesn't really matter.  We'll see if we can improve this in some way, though.

8600 cards should be fine. You can play at pretty nice settings (High). That's what I have here at the office.

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