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Backstory Unimportant? I Don't Think So!

Backstory Unimportant? I Don't Think So!

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Reply #26 Top
Speaking of politics, here's a sneak peek of Stardock's next game: http://beta.politicalmachine.com/
 
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speaking of which I am not going to buy it cause then I will forever be on here playing and will end up dying at the keyboard cause ther are only 24 hours in a day and with galciv2 and sins that only leaves me 4 hours a day to sleep and eat and everything else...

AND NOW YOU WANT ME TO BUY ANOTHER ONE OF YOUR GAMES???

Crack was less addictive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

besides the pre order is not yet available... kin I become a gamma tester??
Reply #27 Top
You've obviously never met a US Republican.
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You have now. Allow me to introduce myself...

Reply #28 Top
You've obviously never met a US Republican.
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You have now. Allow me to introduce myself...
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"Please allow me to introduce myself;
Im a man of wealth and taste;
Ive been around for a long, long year;
Stole many a mans soul and faith;
And I was round when jesus christ;
Had his moment of doubt and pain;
Made damn sure that pilate;
Washed his hands and sealed his fate;
Pleased to meet you;
Hope you guess my name..."

Hehe ;)

Reply #29 Top
Most business people are right of center. Not because they embrace the Republican platform but because of economic freedom - the ability for individuals to enter into agreements without the government interfering as well as government confiscation of capital. So to some of us, the left are the villains, just villains with good intentions.
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Um... ya know... the Republicans have been quite effective at running up the budget deficit, and a sort of inverse socialism of regulation favoring the wealthy and powerful has thrived over the past few years. In other words, embracing a free market it neither a right or left principle but really completely off our current political spectrum.

Reply #30 Top
I noticed you replaced his phrase "right of center" with Republican.
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Frogboy
Speaking of politics, here's a sneak peek of Stardock's next game: http://beta.politicalmachine.com/
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Ok, now you're just plain scaring me. Btw, do you own poison dart frogs? Just curious.

Fearzone
Um... ya know... the Republicans have been quite effective at running up the budget deficit, and a sort of inverse socialism of regulation favoring the wealthy and powerful has thrived over the past few years. In other words, embracing a free market it neither a right or left principle but really completely off our current political spectrum.
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The richest 5% of people in the USA pay 56% of taxes. The richest 20% of people (which includes the previously mentioned 5%) pay 96% of all taxes. The statistics speak for themselves. Go Google "wealthy pay in taxes" for the stats. There isn't enough favoritism for the wealthy when you look at the numbers. They are unfairly penalized for being successful.

Anyone can make a problem out of anything. One person loves this country and sees it as a shining beacon and another person despises it for a laundry list of reasons. You can't please everyone. Political parties are actually the root of the problem because they require people to fit a cookie-cutter mold. Politicians, in particular, are extremely gullible, two-faced (go watch TV and you'll see the NY governor show up), and easy to manipulate. Go Google "ban dihydrogen monoxide" and you'll see that it's very easy to convince politicians to ban dihydrogen monoxide--a dangerous compound that leads to many deaths, suffocations, and commonly contains different microorganisms or animals that can cause serious death or injury. Did you know that dihydrogen monoxide is actually H20, water? Yes, politicians banned water in some places temporarily. THAT'S how uniformed people on all levels of government can be these days.

In a perfect world every single change of law would need voter approval by referendum and voters would be able to propose things, not special interest groups and organizations and not political representatives who aren't required to actually represent the people who elected them. Government is ripe with corruption regardless of whether or not it hits the headlines. Both the left and right are scared of losing their power and will do anything to keep it and live off it. When you leave the cookie-cutter left and right molds and transcend above all the smoke and mirrors you get a much clearer picture of what's going on regardless of where you actually stand. Then you get to cherry pick what actually appeals to you instead of fitting into one of those "one size fits all" two parties, which technically isn't a democracy at all.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I was always taught that this was the land of dreams when I was growing up. These days I see legislation, regulation, liability, and all these other things intruding and outright cutting off some of those dreams from ever happening. Hell, I'm probably not even legally allowed to own the lizards I have because my dreams of owning a couple of exotic pets are constantly getting smashed by all this special interest lobbying from people who distort the truth and can't figure out that a headbutt is friendly and hissing does not always mean "I'm pissed off". I should have died years ago from salmonella and random cougar attacks, but I'm still here (in fact I haven't gotten sick in a very long time since I started owning exotics). There's some things I like on the left and some things I like on the right. However, they're both incredibly stupid when it comes to some things like the aforementioned exotics ownership. I could go on and give other examples (does owning solar panels really make me liberal?) but I don't think that's appropriate here (driving an good-sized SUV makes me a conservative eh?).

However, for political discussion, I do applaud the civil discussion thus far. These things tend to explode everywhere else I've seen them happen...
Reply #32 Top
...am a huge Eldar fan (they are not decadent!)
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Slaanesh begs to differ...
Reply #33 Top
The richest 5% of people in the USA pay 56% of taxes. The richest 20% of people (which includes the previously mentioned 5%) pay 96% of all taxes. The statistics speak for themselves. Go Google "wealthy pay in taxes" for the stats. There isn't enough favoritism for the wealthy when you look at the numbers. They are unfairly penalized for being successful.
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To me this seems to be simple statistics. I guarantee you that the very wealthiest citizens in the bracket you speak of could be taxed even more and still have a much more comfortable living situation than the mid to upper middle class. The middle class are your average consumers that contribute far more to the national economy than any other segment of our society, upper class included. If you want a captialist economy to succeed tax breaks must predominantly be given to the middle class. The upper class will almost always survive in any economic situation. Do some historical research on the wealthy during the Great Depression in the 30s. You'll see what I mean. The middle class was wiped out and most were driven to poverty level incomes, but most of the upper class maintained a sizeable portion of their wealth. Especially the "Old Money" upper class citizens.

Anyone can make a problem out of anything. One person loves this country and sees it as a shining beacon and another person despises it for a laundry list of reasons. You can't please everyone. Political parties are actually the root of the problem because they require people to fit a cookie-cutter mold.
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Untrue. If you don't believe me, witness the debate this year in the 2008 Republican primaries. John McCain on many levels strays from typical "neocon" ideals, but is still a Republican. However I heartily agree that the two party system is becoming more stifling as time goes on, but it serves us better than something like Denmark or Israel's democratic process. If you want a domestic example of what I am referring to, look at the Libertarian party. There are so many different factions to the one party that no one really knows what a particular candidate stands for. There are "conservative" Libertarians, and "liberal" Libertarians, and even "anarchic" Libertarians. The Libertarian party would do well to consolidate and find a stable platform to win elections on, and I think most elections would give a truly panoramic representation of the population. We are just far too diverse a nation to give a party to every single platform stance out there.

Politicians, in particular, are extremely gullible, two-faced (go watch TV and you'll see the NY governor show up), and easy to manipulate. Go Google "ban dihydrogen monoxide" and you'll see that it's very easy to convince politicians to ban dihydrogen monoxide--a dangerous compound that leads to many deaths, suffocations, and commonly contains different microorganisms or animals that can cause serious death or injury. Did you know that dihydrogen monoxide is actually H20, water? Yes, politicians banned water in some places temporarily. THAT'S how uniformed people on all levels of government can be these days.In a perfect world every single change of law would need voter approval by referendum and voters would be able to propose things, not special interest groups and organizations and not political representatives who aren't required to actually represent the people who elected them. Government is ripe with corruption regardless of whether or not it hits the headlines. Both the left and right are scared of losing their power and will do anything to keep it and live off it. When you leave the cookie-cutter left and right molds and transcend above all the smoke and mirrors you get a much clearer picture of what's going on regardless of where you actually stand. Then you get to cherry pick what actually appeals to you instead of fitting into one of those "one size fits all" two parties, which technically isn't a democracy at all.I don't know about the rest of you, but I was always taught that this was the land of dreams when I was growing up. These days I see legislation, regulation, liability, and all these other things intruding and outright cutting off some of those dreams from ever happening. Hell, I'm probably not even legally allowed to own the lizards I have because my dreams of owning a couple of exotic pets are constantly getting smashed by all this special interest lobbying from people who distort the truth and can't figure out that a headbutt is friendly and hissing does not always mean "I'm pissed off". I should have died years ago from salmonella and random cougar attacks, but I'm still here (in fact I haven't gotten sick in a very long time since I started owning exotics). There's some things I like on the left and some things I like on the right. However, they're both incredibly stupid when it comes to some things like the aforementioned exotics ownership. I could go on and give other examples (does owning solar panels really make me liberal?) but I don't think that's appropriate here (driving an good-sized SUV makes me a conservative eh?).However, for political discussion, I do applaud the civil discussion thus far. These things tend to explode everywhere else I've seen them happen...
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This is what freedom of speech and the press is all about, or at least should be all about. The freedom of the press, which I feel is the easiest to misuse, but the most powerful constitutional freedom we enjoy has become useless thanks to the powers that be that can afford to run the press. This is a problem that has effected this country since it's first days. A scientific method and approach to journalism is something that is NOT A GIVEN. Appreciate it when you encounter it, but always be wary at the tilt a particular publisher may have when reading articles of a political nature.

This is what makes your personal freedom of speech so important. If you don't say anything, who will?

I apologize if I am driving this thread further and further off base. I'm just passionate about politics, and when a discussion seems to be as civil and intelligent as this I can't help but participate :)

Reply #34 Top
This is what freedom of speech and the press is all about, or at least should be all about. The freedom of the press, which I feel is the easiest to misuse, but the most powerful constitutional freedom we enjoy has become useless thanks to the powers that be that can afford to run the press. This is a problem that has effected this country since it's first days.
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I wasn't going to say anything because I really don't have anything to add...but as soon as I saw "press" I immediately thought "ugh!". Normally I wouldn't have anything to say, but tonight I caught an advertisement for an exotic pets segment on O'reilly's show for Thursday evening and that has me highly concerned due to the overuse of the word "wild". Now I'm sitting here trying to alert other exotic pet owners on some sites to pay attention to this because of that show's massive audience. Stupid economic, social, and strategic decisions I can deal with. This whole local issue of banning things and government inserting itself into my home is out of control especially when it comes to things that take weeks to understand like exotic pets do. I guarantee mine won't like someone new at first (without me present you're an intruder; with me present you're just something untrusted), but give them a week to warm up to you and things will be just fine.

Ironically, this all feeds right into the whole backstory idea that this thread was based on. You don't get the full picture about something unless you have the backstory.
Reply #35 Top

To me this seems to be simple statistics. I guarantee you that the very wealthiest citizens in the bracket you speak of could be taxed even more and still have a much more comfortable living situation than the mid to upper middle class.
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Certainly. But how is this relevant? Are we a free country or a Marxist one?

Marxism: From each according to ability to each according to need.

The fundamental question in my mind is always are we a free people? That is, is money a tool to be exchanged or goods and services or are we slaves to society at large? In my opinion, we should be trying to ecourage people to do the things that makes people rich. 

I am glad that Lord British and Will Wright and Sid M are incredibly rich. It doesn't hurt me at all that they have millions and millions of dollars. And I am glad they created the things they created.  Would they have still done what it takes, made the sacrifices it took to create the wonderful games they made if they were going to be taxed into merely living "comfortable"?  I doubt it.  I know I wouldn't. 

Ergo, the argument that the wealthy could pay more and still have a comfortable livestyle is irrelevant. Money is exchanged for goods and services. I pay taxes to the government in exchange for services rendered. I believe in progressive taxation to a point but as pointed out, the top 10% of the population pay nearly all the taxes. They're definitely taxed enough.