Xtremely Disappointed

What? i kinda stoped reading halfway but it sounds like you didn't research the game enought so i am sorry to say but you are out of luck.

I translated this in to something normal people can read. Your Welcome.

Yea, same here OP. I thought this was an fps; the 4x part totally threw me off. How is a 4x game more like a strategy than a fps?!

Yeah, it's a lot shallower than it's advertised to be, what can you do but live and learn from the error? You and I both should have waited for the demo. I'm hoping future patches, or failing that mods, will add some needed depth and diversity to the game.

Vinraith,

Me thinks you are missing the sarcasm of the previous poster...

Javaslinger

The twin for this post is at:

https://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/304510

This thread (or the other should be locked/consolidated.

My "yeah" was to the OP, I'm fully aware that the previous poster is being sarcastic (and completely misunderstood the OP, incidentally).

Deselance, Based off the number of grammatical and spelling errors in your post I can already tell that this game is not for you. You should go back to playing Halo or Counter Strike. Otherwise, you should sit down for several hours and give this game a real chance. Yeah, there are things we'd all like to see added in, but this is what we have right now. Good thing it's a much more completed product than half of the junk that's been released in the past 6 months.

Yeah, I feel the same way, but I have faith in patches or mods, I mean look at the 'complex mod' that came out for homeworld 2, that thing is many times more complicated than the game itself (it's awesome), I have a feeling that something similar will eventually appear for this game.

Is this a poem or something?

Like a really really really crappy poem?

I don't get it.

Crappy poem! That's classic! But anyway to reply to the OP... I don't see what your real problem with the game is, I researched this game for a few days before I bought it and nowhere did I find ANY indication that you'd be able to design your own ships. Only a handful of techs? Um... there's more than enough techs to keep you researching for an entire game and then some. Fleets are not "pre-built", you have to build them up. And that's part of the fun of playing the game. Deciding what to build to suit your needs.

Though I do like your thought about actually placing stuff on the planet... Adds a whole new strategy that'd be needed to bombard a planet. You'd have to actually surround it to get everything.

Planets rotate and ships can orbit. I doubt you would need to surround it.

why did i imagine a dude smoking a long cigarrette (sp?) wearing a black turtle neck, a berret and a pair of bongos when i read this?

heh just imagine:

Advertisements are so great. tum tum turu tum! Why dont they include: tum tum turu tum!

only a handful tum tum turu tum! of researching techs. tum!

cannot build your ships tum tum tum!, prebuilt. tum turum!


and so on and so forth

I actually found this post hilarious. I think it's because of the "poetic" format of it, but it also shows some remarkable short-sightedness, if you ask me.

On points that might well be considered valid:
1) The fact that you cannot place structures manually on your planet is due to one of the depth sacrifices made to accomodate the 4x part of the game to the RTS. They said this on one of the online interviews - I forget which one, but if you insist I could try find it again. The point is, they would have put that in but for the fact that it may be too time-consuming to do in the RTS environment.
2) Prebuilt ships; exactly the same reason. Also mentioned in an online interview. This:

is not why. It is a thoughtless argument with very little logic behind it.

And while it may be ok to mention weaknesses of the game, and, indeed, to talk about its shallowness (which it may or may not be), to use arguments like these really comes down to trolling. In the interest of rational discussion, could you provide some arguments backing up your thoughts, beyond the sarcasm?

This is clearly just a troll post no need to reply! (opps! )

And that's the story of the game, right there. Every bit of depth you normally find in a 4X title sacrificed in the name of real time gameplay until there's virtually nothing left. As an RTS the sides are too similar, the pace too plodding, and the combat too rudimentary. As a 4X there's no depth, incredibly shallow planetary development, no ship designing, weak AI, the worst diplomacy system I've ever seen, and a paltry research tree. Each aspect gets in the way of, rather than improving, the other. You end up with a game that is less than the sum of its parts.

Speaking as someone who prefers 4X games to RTS's, my hope is that future patches and mods may put back some of that missing depth and result in a game more akin to Europa Universalis 2, where a real time clock wasn't an excuse for shallow game play.

Yawn the op is so unrealistic and honestly I have seen 8 year olds with better grammar, though I know 40 year olds who are even worse.

yaaaarg!! i would like to agree that somewhere on the damn box someone shoulda mentioned theres no campaign mode. I like a good story and thought i was gettin a decent one from watching the opening cinematics, only to spend 5 minutes thinking "ok, where the heck is it?!" rts is great, online gaming is fun....a lotta other games combined these while also adding a nice campaign with a good story, if theres a mod that comes out adding a campaign i'll shut my mouth....but man am i disappointed in this game.

I'm so xtremely disappointed I am xxtremely doing backflips off my xtreme dishwasher.

Vinraith,

Funny, as a person that prefers RTS over 4x, my comments are exactly opposite. Way too complex a tech tree, why do we need to deal with Crystal, Metal & Credits?

Way to slow (leaving to alot of tired days) to get finished etc.

On the RTS side, the graphics are good, but not great. No real use of the 3rd dimension, etc.

Bottom line, as they it's a compromise and I'm happy and enjoy it. Is it Homeworld 3? No, I wish it was, but it's the next best thing considering how few companies are building anything in this genre (let alone PC games).

I'm looking forward to the first mod's to be ready for release, espcially the total conversions like Star Trek or Stargate.

I remember seeing a post long ago from the devs that said you cannot make your own ships because in a real-time environment its not practical.

Why cant people just take this game for what it is, a game. If you dont enjoy it, then im sorry your doing something wrong. While it might not be civ4 in space of even moo3, it has alot of very nice qualities about it.

Also remember, the game is at the starting line, so the game company still has a ways to go. Who is to say that ironclad and stardock wont bring out a new release to add ground and planetary combat to the game?

I get so tired of people complaining. This game may not be everything, but its still a very well written game, and im having a fun time playing it. Yeash, some people need to step back from the screen I guess.

The OP looks like a strange sort of free-form poetry.

That might be true. I thought it looked like it might have been typed from some sort of mobile device though. The wrap attribute has been depreciated in the latest HTML/XHTML standards and this looks like someone's browser submitted things in hard wrapping style instead of soft. I had this come up a couple of times so now I routinely violate the standards when appropriate since we don't live in a perfect world.

I suspect a bad copy and past, but a mobile device seems plausible. Maybe the original author could shed some light here (if it's not just a drive-by posting).