No their don't. Repulsion repulses everything hostile to you.

I think a lot of the difficulty fighting Advent as TEC is that many TEC players are trying to fight Advent on their terms.

Many make much of the fact that TEC is strong early game but weaker late game. While this has some truth to it, your economic advantage can still gain you a lot late game, even on a large map.

Force the advent player to fight a war of attrition. Always have a bigger fleet and force your advent player to continually be upgrading his fleet capacity, which will hurt him more than you, even with a lot of planets. If the advent player has one epic fleet, force the player to be paranoid to commit it. Hit worlds far from his main fleet to make him respond. Even skip a planet or two and hit deeper in his colonies. Then when the main fleet is away push on the border colonies.

As TEC, you should be able to outbuild your advent player as well. Keep hurting the advent player and hit them from multiple directions. If the game goes really long, get your planet-killer gun and decimate his economy even more from long range. As TEC, you should be in the business of ruining your players economy by forcing it to the limit. Make him waste money on defenses, rebuilding planets, ships, etc.

If your strategy is a singular one where you amass one epic fleet and then charge at his epic fleet the results won't be so pretty... you're fighting on his terms now where he can take full advantage of his superior special abilities. A fleet without an economy can't do much, so the idea, at least for me, is to ruin that economy and keep his main fleet confused by using hit and run tactics of several smaller fleets.

If you are constantly attacking him, he won't be able to attack you. And even if he does, he takes 1 or 2 planets of yours at the risk of losing several of his core planets.

$$$ makes the world go-round, the same is true in sins. Use the power of your economy to outbuild your opponent and force him to go into an eco struggle with you. If he has an epic fleet that comes after, run from it. Heck, i've had an advent player chase a smaller fleet of mine through his home worlds as i proceeded to take his border worlds...

As TEC can't be drawn into just a limited micro player like the advent can, you must out MACRO them.

If Cap ships werent affected, that would be horrible. They would be ff'ed on with no support ships around. Repel would single out all cap ships. That's a horrible idea, i thought eX was a little smarter than that...

If it's late game, couldn't you and your team mates just build a couple of Novaliths each and just nuke all his planets. Won't stop income completely, but there's no defence for this and it would certainly put a stop to him advancing for a while.

when you're being repulsed, your fleet splits. When repulsing, it's very easy to repulse just after the illums fire a shot. In fact, you can just drive your illum/guardian blob around and spam repulse while doing it. As you do this, your illums will get off a number of shots then the enemy ships will go flying. If the Advent player is any good, he'll have multiple guardians and 2 illum blobs also with guardians (how I play repulse spam). The two illum blobs will bounce ships back and fourth between each other. The other guardians not in the blobs will keep ships from jumping. If your cap gets stick between my two paddles, I can assure you it's dead and there's nothing you can do about it.

If caps are unaffected by repulsion, your cap will be able to jump unfettered as well as, if you choose, attempt to do something useful (ie shut down a cap, try to kill a guardian, etc). Furthermore, if you are also Advent, you can counter with malice/brilliance.

The way it is now, against a repulsion fleet where the opponent isn't great = your fleet is stuck in the well.

Against an opponent who's good = your cap is dead.

With repulsion not affecting caps, you regain the ability to have your cap choose its battles AS WELL as run away. In other words, if repulsion doesn't affect cap = cap lives unless you made a bad decision with it.

Just because you lack the ability to micro your cap doesn't mean that repulsion should affect them as well.

Is there any response from IC on the repulsion issue?

@innociv
I really hate to hear that, because ICO is getting to be a lonely place at times. I've just been hosting non advent games:(

@klentrogen
The only difference between TEC and Advent eco. Is one research structure.750\100\80
If that makes TEC eco. 10x better back it up with some numbers. An Advent player worth his weight is stacking his trade ports. You add their strong culture to that and their eco is just as good. Sounds as if you haven't played someone moderately good with the Advent. Time will expose more of the op repulsion. As more players learn to use the abilities. Yes I'm still winning games vs. Advent, but they haven't learned how to mico efficiently yet.(i.e. still new)

@Refute
The Advent don't have any eco upgrades? hmmm.......So the Advent just don't upgrade the eco....Aww man I can't even keep a strait face while typing this trash. If your backing up Klentrogen show me numbers.

I agree with pretty much everything Hunting said except the late civ tree eco techs being worthless to TEC, This simply isnt true if a game gets to that point researching those techs and the +4 logistics slot/black market bonus techs puts TEC at a DECISIVE eco advantage in late game. Advent doesnt have a single tech that boosts raw credit gain, except the max allegiance bonus, and they definetly cant plant an additional trade port at every planet, nor get a very nice black market advantage and manage their econ at any point in time due to black market gain.

I know hunting plays alot of smaller games and these techs are fairly pointless to research in smaller games but on larger maps they make enormous differences.

my that doesnt really work against players who have their Z axis mapped. Just warp in ABOVE the defensive radius and your screwed.

I second this question. I was not aware it was possible.

If so, please share this secret!

As an advent player, I agree that repulsion is OP, I also would like to note that, if it blocks strike craft (I have not tested this) then there is nothing that the advent can use to hit a guard when it has repulsion active (being that the range of illums is inside the repulsion range, particularly frustrating). This IMO is a problem. While it is powerful against TEC and Vasari, they can at least hit it with their LRFs.

Oh, and the z axis control was removed in 1.05