Let's see, even though RG and HH are allied with each other and share (kind of) our forums with each other, and your Vent server, and he's already applied to our clan,
-Teamspeak or Vent
-we've been alive for 4 and 1/2 months
-some of us (me) participate in the RG game system thing
-and technical advisors (at the moment, mainly just me, again) to help you on your journey to greatness
If you (to anyone reading this) don't want to join Hopeful horizon, RG is a grat bunch of guys to, so you'll be well-taken-care of either way.