SOASE Vs Eve Online?

Hi there, i've been playing the Eve-Online game for a few years now, but i've never really "got into" it, and don't really know how to play the game properly.  I love the graphics  and what the game is, and how big it is.

But popping into my local GAME and I see SOASE out.  It looks a lot like Eve.  Eves too complicated for me I think, but can anyone give any pro's/cons to playing this over eve?


Eve Pros

Great graphics
Large support base
Huge game, probably never explore all place.
Lots of guns, missiles

Eve Cons

Maybe too big?
Far too complicated
Can't trust anyone
Monthly subscription.
Too many of the same looking ships, not enough real variety

So can anyone who's played both give any valied inpartial opinions?  Should I think about stopping Eve and buying this instead?

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Reply #1 Top
They're absolutely and utterly nothing alike. You can't really make any comparison between a space sim MMO and an RTS :)

Pick up the Sins demo from Fileplanet or something, and give it a whirl and see for yourself :)
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Well, they are both played on a PC, and they are both space games, so there is a similarity, hence why im asking.

Sorry, not a techy and know what an MMO or RTS is.
Reply #3 Top
Apples and Oranges. Both fruit, but different. It boils down to your personal taste.

Just try the demo to see if you like Sins or not.
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Well, okay, but that's where the similarity ends :P In EVE, you're a single pilot trying to make your way in the galaxy. In Sins, you're the supreme overlord who controls entire fleets, colonizes planets, spreads influence across the galaxy, conquers other races, so on so forth..

Try the demo :P
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an mmo is when you play as one persona and control everything about them, an rts is a game where you control huge armies and utterly wipe out the other army it takes skill and strategy to plan attacks and when they don't work, you retreat and defend the enemies onslaught, now there is a lot of different ships in sins, 60 in total i believe, but you build more ships then and outmeneuver the enemy and blow them to oblivion. i've never played eve but take annator's advice and download the demo :)
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I play both eve and sins, albeit more of the former. But both are great games.

Eve Online - Massively Multiplayer Online (MMO).

More of a social game. You have to co-operate with others to a lesser degree, depending on what you want to do. But if you are into player vs. player (PvP), cooperation is a must as you are a solo pilot. The ship you fly are usually specialised. Think fantasy like WoW in space. Means you need a party of damage dealers, healers, melee and etc.

But Eve is brutal as you say. Trust the wrong ppl and you'll lose quite a bit of fortune. Sabotage, piracy and theft are somewhat condone and allowed. But all in all, I love it and in my opinion, one of the best MMOs I've played so far.

As it's an MMO, you must be connected on the internet at all times to play as other ships you see are real life players.

Eve is more like Role Playing Game (RPG) but in space.

Sins of A Solar Empire - Single Player with Multiplayer Capability.

The only thing that is the same as eve is that Sins is a space based game. That's all.

Sins is a strategy game, a hybrid between Real Time Strategy (RTS) and classic Turn Based Strategy. Like what Annatar says, you are the overlord of your empire. You build your army, and then strategise to crush your opponent.

Sins' learning curve is not as steep as Eve's, but it will take awhile nevertheless to get the hang of it. You'll learn how to build your armies, using different combination of ships, as well as choosing which technology path to go for (yes you need to research certain technologies to be able to unlock more potential abilities and ships)

Sins is a single player game, meaning you can play alone against your CPU opponents, or hook into the server and go multiplayer and fight other humans.

In Sins, you strategise to win, such as when to build your army, ally with who, how to repel forces twice your size (if possible) attacking your planets and all that. The pace is rather slow so it allows you to think and formulate a plan (just don't panic).

All I can say about Sins is if you haven't try it, do so and you'll find out for yourself it's a great game.
Reply #7 Top
Thanks for the replies.

Jazzler, I understand all that now. Sounds like this is similar to Command and Conquer games but based in space.

I do like eve, but just can't get into it, the anagrams, knowing what xyz needs to work properly.

AS suggested, I think i'll find a demo somewhere (if anyones got a link to a demo play, please feel free to post it ;) ) and give it a crack, see what its like.

Oh, jazzler, need any new members in your corp in eve lol?
Reply #8 Top
After a couple of months, EVE can be played for free if your in the right group and you have enough time to play. You can buy time cards with ingame money to pay for them. It's easy to make money in EVE and you can TRUST alot of people. Talk in the right channels, don't talk in the local chat because people do watch their backs first.

I play both. but since were here, play Sins to save some money, but get EVE if you like MMOs.
Reply #9 Top
AS suggested, I think i'll find a demo somewhere (if anyones got a link to a demo play, please feel free to post it ) and give it a crack, see what its like.
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Here you go!

Sins demo
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.Oh, jazzler, need any new members in your corp in eve lol?
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Reply #11 Top
If you want anywhere close to a comparison of Eve-Online offline single player game closest would be X3 or just the X-Series in general. But that can be complicated if not more so than EVE in some extent. I've played EVE from early beta stage on and off over the years. Right now im in a off step but will go back eventually again.

Sins is great. I personally love the game, gives choices, its semi slow pace, and the ability to save the game in multi and single player if I have to run out quickly and do something.

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You can compare Sins with Homeworld, but not with an MMO like EVE...
Reply #13 Top
You can't compare Homeworld and SoaSE. They have very different level of scale and gameplay. Homeworld is to SoaSE as Company of Heroes is to Supreme Commander.
Reply #14 Top
Apples and oranges...
Reply #15 Top
Eve is definitely complicated with a steep learning curve. Been playing it for 5 years. just got Sins...and its a lot easier to play :). But ill never leave Eve unless they become like WoW. Course, its all a matter of what you wanna do. Im still confuzzled with Eve :|
Reply #16 Top
Apples and oranges...
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Looky who's back :)
Reply #17 Top
You can't compare Homeworld and SoaSE. They have very different level of scale and gameplay. Homeworld is to SoaSE as Company of Heroes is to Supreme Commander.
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Well, atleast it's better to use Homeworld instead of an MMO aka EvE.
Or better yet, just compare it with nothing since SoaSE is the first with such an mix of genres.
Reply #18 Top
GTA4 or Tony Hawk PGA Tour 2009 ?
Ferrari or Banana ?
Thats sort of the logic behind your comparison :P
Reply #19 Top
Banana of course :P
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Apples and oranges...
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Well, both are round...
Reply #21 Top
I also play EVE.

To compare Sins to EVE I would say this:

Where it might take you 2-3 years to experaince EVE to the fullest of fleet warfare and politcal strife you can experiance something similar to this in Sins after an hour or 2.

Obviously, there's a lot more differences then these which will never compare. On the brightside, you won't be waiting 10 minutes to activate your turrets when you're involved in fleet engagements of 300 vs 300 in Sins, but you also don't have the same intensity that's present in EVE. :D

If you're playing EVE and are having a hard time or feeling lost, try to join a Factional Warfare corp and give it a go a few times a week using Interceptors. ;)

Reply #22 Top
On the brightside, you won't be waiting 10 minutes to activate your turrets when you're involved in fleet engagements of 300 vs 300 in Sins
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Only? I quit because it would take me 20+ minutes to load grid, at which point I would appear in a pod, wave my shiny t2 fleet-fitted Mega bye bye, and spend the next 20 minutes waiting to load in a station. Shame, too. I'd still be sucked into an otherwise awesome game if not for that.
Reply #23 Top
to be fair, the only reason most ships look the same in Eve, is a problem most online pvp games face

one setup type excells so everyone uses that

its why you see vagabonds rigged for speed flying everywhere

Reply #24 Top
im Daniel Jackson been playign eve for over 5 years and still do.

ii have request thoue, we need smarter people in the caldari militia, cause most people ther are just retards
Reply #25 Top
That you've played EVE for more than a few months and have very little knowledge about the game leads me to believe that you are a very casual gamer. If that's the case then EVE is definitely not for you - nor any MMO for that matter, but especially not EVE.

As one poster said they are apples and oranges. In an MMO your potential is unlimited. Anything you can do in Sins, you can do in EVE. For example, one poster mentioned that you can command and crush massive fleets in Sins. You can do the same in EVE. The difference in EVE is that to get to that kind of status as a player you need to invest years of serious play into the game. You need to network and build an alliance. You need to command the respect of other PvP'ers if you expect them to come under your command and the only way that will ever happen is by starting out at the bottom in solo PvP, then to small skirmish warfare, learning the game and all of its dynamics, learning all of the ships and their capabilities and generally molding your ability and your knowledge to the extent that people respect and follow you. You also need to have some sort of financial and logistics plan. You're talking about years of play to get to this point. The fun is in the journey as well, though. MMO's aren't for everyone... most people who play MMO's commit more time than they should to them at the expense of a real life.

Sins is more like a representation of this. You just jump in and start all of this from the beginning. A game like EVE delves into the smallest unit and you start from nothing. If you're in it for fun from the start at the expense of complexity Sins is probably for you. I've played EVE since launch and have accomplished some epic things... but I still enjoys Sins very much as a casual game.