Is it me,or ?

Hi Everyone,Ok so this is my first time playing a space/RTS. Now is it me or am i just thick. I just dont get this game,im totaly overawed with this game,its just vast and i mean VAST. It seems that everyone who plays this for the first time seems to know what there doing. It really is hard to get to grips with. I have played through the tutorials and still dont know the first things to build in the game. Im slowly not liking this game because of its sheer difficulty. I have been playing RTS/Turn based since 1997.So i would say im quite a vetren,but this game...what the hell do you do?. If anyone can answer this question your doing well. Thanks Jayteeboy:)
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I would highly recommend starting your first game on a small map with 1 AI and no pirates. This will cut down on the "WTF is going on?" considerably :)

Generally speaking, it goes like this:

Your planets have a population that produces your credits. There are also orbiting resource rocks that you can build mines on. Ore is the major resource for construction, and Crystal for research, but most things mix and match.

Your first capital ship is free. Build a capital ship factory to get it as quickly as possible, because you'll be using it to clear out all the neutrals around the planets you want to colonize. A lot of people start with the colonizer capital (Akkan, Jarrasul Evacuator, or Progenitor Mothership) to make the initial colonization quicker and more efficient. Be sure to upgrade the planets' infrastructure so they actually start making money.

After that, you expand your glorious empire, build research labs to research techs and advanced ship hulls, build trade ports to generate extra credits, use those credits to build a Grand Fleet, and use it to cleanse the galaxy of heathens :)
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At last someone who talks in English and also makes it sound sense. Thanks dude,Really great advice m8. I will do that. Anymore suggestions would be most welcome.:)
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If you've got slightly more specific questions I'd be happy to answer them, otherwise a general "what to do" will be quite a long essay ;)

But I should amend my first reply: start with an easy AI :)
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Please edit your post and insert a space after each comma and after some periods where it is missing, perhaps then it is readable.

Use the replay feature. Every time you have lost a game, save the replay and watch it, see what your enemy did better than you.
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Anyone else got any good advice,or maybe stratagies i could use?. At the moment i play the TEC race but what is the best race to play?. What do you build first?.....etc,etc.Thanks everyone Jayteeboy:)
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Hi if you go to the forums page on stratergy Ke5trel has posted a great guide for all begginners using any of the races

you will find it at the top of the page about 4 posts down give it look over you might find it useful, good luck and enjoy sins it gets better the more you stick with it.

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mabey your just slow in the head ? and it takes you 10 times as long as the adverage person to figure things out ?

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That was uncalled for.

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I agree with Kitkun Jayteeboy asked for guidence to improve himself ,you Generalkyle offer insults showing a complete lack of manners and an appollogy would  go some way to making amends

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Space games, particularly the real time ones, do tend to have a really big learning curve. There is worse than Sins out there, beleive me ! :) X3 for example is incredably difficult to learn how to play, and literally has dozens of guides written on how to play it without going mad. Sins by comparison is actually quite simplistic !

The best way to learn is play. Expect to get killed in the first few games, and just ask questions about why. Why can they build so many ships when I never have any money myself ? Why do pirates keep attacking me ? etc. Each question leads to finding a new feature of the game.

Most aspects of the game have something obvious, something somewhat hidden, and ways of improving things. eg. Money - planets are colonised generally account for how much money you have by its population and they cost you money until you upgrade them so they dont have a negative tax amount. (find that quick). Thats the hidden part. You research more population, both on the planet and in the research screens. Then researching and building trade stations improves your money. The timing of all this depends on your strategy and what else is happening. If you are in big battle with an enemy AI from day 1, then your just not going to have the resources for extensive research immediately as you will be madly building ships. So a bigger map, less phase lanes, less enemies, gives you time to figure things out.

Learning what order to do things is just part of playing games and getting your arse kicked different ways, and reading the forum for similar questions you have and their answers. If you cant find it, ask it. You always attract some negtive responses because the world is full of negative people who just want to put you down, but ignore them, there is plenty of us who are here to help and will.

I suggest a number of games with easy AI's, set them to everything except aggressive, turn off the pirates, lock the groups, use a map with short and few phase lanes. Select a large map, with only a few AI's. This gives you time to build a small empire before your forced to do more than minor battles, lets you do some research so you can see how some of the advanced features help you, and gives you breathing room for a while. Sure, its likely someone will stomp on you sooner or later, but figuring out why they could do so is part of learning the game and we all had to do this.

When you win a game on easy, set the AI's to normal, then move up to hard. By that time you should have the hang of the game and are ready to unlock the teams and allow pirates and experince how that changes the game and make decisions about how you to prefer to play the game.

The main thing is to accept that the game has a learning curve, and play it initially on the expectation of getting your arse kicked and learning why it happens and figuring out how to do better next time.

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Spend lots of time readin the Strategy forum.