Sounds like a blast!  I'd support a MOD to enforce said rules....

Any mod also needs to increase the numer of caps allowed and reduce the amount of XP needed for cap ship level up.

Yeah, this was an awesome game.  The first one we played as all TEC, the next one was Vasari.  I believe a 3rd was played where the player could choose their race, but it was getting pretty late by then. 

@Kitkun - We don't plan on playing with the AI, but as minidumps happen, the AI eventually takes over.  Perhaps the better fix would be to fix the minidump issue.

--------------------------------------------------Gotta love the new icons.

Are those the complete rules? No changes to ship stats or anything? I could whip up a mod for you guys if those are the complete rules tonight.

One point of note - do you want to start with a capital factory, or do you want it to be built? Meaning, should I replace the starting frigate factory with a starting capital factory, or remove the frigate factory and just leave the 2 constructors?

And of course, how much would you like the number of capitals to increase, and how? I can double it for example and make it progressive, so each research rank gives you 2x the crews, or make a big jump on the last research, depending on how you want it balanced.

What about the xp to level? What kind of a reduction?

That would be awesome Annatar.

We haven't played enough to really refine the rules but those are the rules more or less.  I guess I'd say no Level 8 superweapons for any of the races even though it's really only an issue for TEC with its Novalith Cannon.

I think the amount of XP needed for capital ships to level up needs to be cut down to 40% of what it is now.  After all, the fun of the game is all about the capital ships and their abilities.

I'm not sure how the capital ships limit should work but it would be nice if the limits were increased.  Maybe something like (max number of crews you can have)

Start out with 2

Level 1 ----> 4

Level 2 ----> 6

Level 3 -----> 10

Level 4 -----> 15

Level 5 -----> 20

Level 6 -----> 25

Level 7 -----> 30

Level 8 -----> 40    (40 x 50 supply pts = 2000 supply pts)

Oh, and personally, I think you should get 1 repair bay at your HW and only 1.  If it gets destroyed, you can build a new one, but it must be at your HW. 

That's my thought though, I don't know if the community would agree.

I suppose you can keep it at 50; everyone will be stuck in the same economic sink hole.

Does this mean no emergency infrastructure upgrades for planets themselves? I got the no repair bays part

http://files.filefront.com/GoBigOrGoHomerar/;11736222;/fileinfo.html

Here you go guys, mod is ready:

-Frigate factories removed from all 3 races' build lists.

-Repair bays removed from all 3 races' build lists.

-Hangar defenses removed from all 3 races' build lists.

-Superweapons removed from all 3 races' build lists.

-Returning Armada removed from research tree and from Phase Gate structure

-Capital ship xp needed to level set to 40% of the default for each level.

-All races start with capital shipyard built instead of frigate shipyard.

-New capital ship crew progression: 2 > 4 > 6 > 10 > 15 > 20 > 25 > 30 > 40

If there's anything I missed, let me know. I didn't mess with the research trees other than removing Returning Armada, since with no frigates/cruisers I might as well clean out half the combat tree. But if you have any requests on shuffling around techs or breaking dependancies, let me know. Enjoy

Annatar, you do too much. Your making it harder for the rest of us to contribute............. and your taking all teh karma.

The only thing I would suggest to add to this is researching capital ships abilities up to level 10.

I got sick in big games of having idle fleets at blocking points doing nothing, when in reality they would be training hard.

So I changed the files to allow each capital ship to be trained all the way to full.

In your cap ship only game, this would allow some differences in the ships, based on how well you get your economy going, which allows you to spend the money on training. So a player with a thriving economy also has the ability to train to maximum, while a player with a barely functioning economy would not be able to.

Of course, if your nonstop combat, then they will level up quickly, but this would also allow a new ship to replace an old one to be levelled up on its way to the combat zone. So a player who is being trashed, but has plenty of cash, can get a new ship into the battle training up as fast as it can go, and thus not so outclassed by the enemy ships that trashed its predecessor.

Any fleet at level 10 has a serious advantage over a newly created fleet at level 3. So allowing cash to train to level 10, allows a player to catchup quicker.

Just a thought.

Thanks a lot Annatar!  I have to go back to work tonight so I probably won't get to look at it until Wednesday.

Thanks Annatar11 for the quick reply and the mod more power too you.

cheers Annatar 11 will move 1.09 to another drive then reinstall original from my disk on c-drive an update to 1.05 thanks for the help