Just an Idea: One Universal Mod Conversion

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Just an Idea, but what if people made race addons instead of total conversions. As long as the Races were balenced one could play any factions in any combination.

Star Trek and Star Wars races could fight alongside or against eachother with Babylon 5 ship in the same conversion. Throw in Stargate ships and Battlestar Galactica ships all in the same mod.

This idea means patience, communication, and skill. But unless this community has those charictaristics anyways it won't last long. So instead of making many conversion mod what if we just compiled them all.

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Reply #1 from Sins Forums Top

Just an Idea, but what if people made race addons instead of total conversions. As long as the Races were balenced one could play any factions in any combination.
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Thats what 7 deadly sins is. DANMAN just takes the factions out of each mod released (that grant him permission of course) and then combines them all together.

Reply #2 from Sins Forums Top

How would you ensure that each race is balanced to each other? Balance between Star Trek races may be way different than Star Wars :P

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Reply #3 from Sins Forums Top

Yeah.  So far the Star Wars mod is in, plus two races from Star Control 2, the Ur-Quan Kohr-Ah and the Ariloulaleelay.  And there are playable pirates in the form of the Rogue race plus semi-clones of the original 3 races with new techs and features.  Consider them similar to the Generals in Zero Hour, or the sub-factions in Kane's Wrath.

 

And the most OP faction ever, the Atlantians (no, not the Stargate ones, sorry).  These ones are even more freaking powerful, and over three times as arrogant (well in the backstory they are, too bad Sins can't do machinima or everyone would be lol'ing in their pants with this mod in action).  But they are the ultimate techers, completely unstoppable later game, provided the player isn't a complete moron.

 

I missing anything else CanadaMan?  I know DANMAN merged Bailknight's, Lost_WLD's, and Solar Flair all together as well, plus SINSounds for enhanced sound effects, and Sins Plus and Solar Sins.

Reply #4 from Sins Forums Top


Quoting Annatar11, reply 2
How would you ensure that each race is balanced to each other? Balance between Star Trek races may be way different than Star Wars
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Thats why communication is important. To allow the modders incharge of specific races or series to draft basic guidlines on weapons strength, hull armor, shield strength, hull stats, etc.

Reply #5 from Sins Forums Top

Well, so far its really just DANMAN and his army of playtesters adjusting for balance issues.  Nothing that hard to be balanced has been modded in yet, just the Empire has been added in, and the Kohr-Ah, Arilou, and Atlantians have been built from scratch so balancing them is easy.  The semi-clones are pretty similar to their bases, so balance there isn't too hard.

 

Once more things start getting added in, like the Star Trek mod and the Halo mod, then things will become hard.  Especially if the BSG mod gets added, and we have to find a way to have three shieldless races not be useless, and also be different from each other.  Balancing armor/HP/SP/damage values isn't too hard, as we are using vanilla Sins as a base, and checking our units against the vanilla ones in terms of power.  So things won't be that hard to balance out. 

 

Hard part is making sure the races don't just look different, they play different as well, so a Klingon attack will not be responded to the exact same way as an attack from the Empire.

Reply #6 from Sins Forums Top

Ah a very good point made. As far as shieldless races, because one of my favorites is,  One could off set the shield with armor strenth or make the shield a primary armor in the text and remove the shield flare (note: if it is possible just for the shieldless races.

And yes the tech trees and AI would have to vary somewhat yet still be equal. I understand it is going to be hard, but it would be a neat mod.