I can't speak for the other two players on my team but I'm pretty sertain that I would have been polite and cordial as I almost always am.  If that was not the case then please accept my sincere apologies for my bad behavior. 

To put this in perspective we'd need to see exactly who was on what teams.  4v6 doesn't work when the team with 6 players has two or more players whose skill matches the skill of the players on the 4 man team.  Games where a team is shorthanded can sometimes end up being noob stomps and sometimes they can become intense, competitive games.  They aren't "gimme's" all that often.

It really didn't take us that long to complete the mop up.

Tell you what, I'm going to go over the replay if it will load up and run properly and  rewatch the dialogue and perhaps post some of it here if I can.

Game was a 3-v-4.  Teams were:

GiniFnBadBitch, Cp. Kenpatchi, WHIPperSNAPper (me)

v.

Jedi1, Vneck, Newt, and Majurglery

I remember this one now; I had a boned start and one of the worst starting positions I've ever seen.  My Terran linked to a Gini's terran and two asteroid belts, one of which was empty and one of which had a single crystal extractor.  There seems to be a desync in the replay but I can still watch the dialogue.  (I think replays are broken in 1.1.)

At around 1:10 Jedi1 says, in response to a request to build repair bays, "Thx, but this is a lost cause."

1:15:  Jedi1:  gg, thanks for the game

Jedi1 leaves

The teams are now:  3 humans v. up to 2 weak AI and Newt.  A mop-up job commences on the AI.  The aforementioned attack on my home terran had already been repelled by Gini at this point.

1:17:  Cp. Kenpachi:  Give up Newt

1:17: Newt:  Woohoo, good fun Blue

1:19:  Cp. Kenpachi:  Dude, this game lost meaning when the guy next to me left (at the start of the game).

1:19:  Newt:  Yeah, it was rather lame of them to leave.  The CPUs did nothing after they left either.

1:20: Kenpachi:  Green give up

1:20: Newt:  I am Newt, I only give up on my own terms.

1:21 Kenpahi:  Like I said this game is meaningless, some people are waiting on these guys.  Look I can spam so many HC it would not be funny.

(I get a minidump at 1:28 in the replay and I watched it twice.)

Anway, it looks like Kenpachi was the primary talker and that he'd probalby set you off at that point, but I wouldn't call his request for you to quit particularly rude though he should have said "please".

Regardless, if I (WHIPperSNAPper) personally said anything that was impolite or condescending or unsportsmanlike, please accept my sincere apology.

Newt is getting pissed at a school kid - ROFL

Relic solved this problem with Dawn of War and Company of Heroes.  Having built-in victory conditions beyond annihilate easily eliminates the whole 'hide the farm' nonsense.  Controlling ~75% of the galaxy should result in a 10 minute count-down timer for the other team.  If they can't take some territory back in time, they lose.  Fair, sensible solution.

I'd imagine that'd cause a hell of a lot of problems in a game where one teammate builds a lot of culture.  Would be hard to cap a planet with a time limit while you're waiting for the culture to slide back.  That or having to annihilate a whole other system that's stacked broadcast centers just to recapture the first system to prevent the auto-win.

 When I'm on the verge of loosing(majority of worlds gone and fleet lost in battle) I gather what's left of my fleet to one central planet, build up it's defenses and tactical structures, abandon the rest of my planets, and tell my enemies to come and get it. A heroic last stand

This is at least preferable to people who increase their planet health to make your wait 5 min per planet to bomb it back to the stone age. And assuming I don't have a REALLY pressing issue with time, I am normally OK with 5 more minutes for an uber battle which me and my allies will win due to the superior numbers. Its still fun seeing the ships pop....

Shall we let this drop then?  I Accept your appology, and offer mine as well, if this was some sort of miss understanding, not all of the dialog was there, such as what was said that fired me to say im going to keep you boys there as long as I could, made primarily by the non clanny in the game.  Not going to blunder bust on the forums, but it was very impolite for you to have used my name in the first place, this would have been a more productive post if you had left names out of it, seemed to me you were pretty much saying Newt is a pile of dog crap so dont play with him, then turned it into a design issue post, idk idc lets all be friends and take over each others planets and throw up a GG at the end, whenever that may be, what do we say?

Newt

Also I did mention to him to say please in the next couple of comments

Very, VERY well said Annatar.  If ur not willing to play a game all the way, why even start it in the first place (minus an emergency).  And this goes both ways.

So, here's my 2 cents and I'm sure it will piss some people off...Quit being a whiny baby and play the game all the way through and earn your win.  Don't knock a guy cause he still feels he has a chance to possibly do something.

Are you serious???  So, a player (no matter how pissed or how rude he wants to be) doesn't have the right to finish a game completely on his own terms.  He is required to quit because his opponents want a win without doing the mop-up work.  That is some twisting and turning logic right there.

its rude to tell some one to give up. Newt wasnt being a jerk you guys were. If some jerk telling me to stop playing i would waste their time. Then you guys make it worse by trying to make him look bad on the forums. ITS A GAME FOR THE LOVE GOD!

I just played an online game earlier today and it had been awhile since I played online or the game really(been playin Evillejedi's mod).Anyway It was first time for a game of 1.1. I had taken 4 planets and my neighbor roles in and kills my 2 outermost worlds. Well at this point I didnt think I would recover. With a little teamwork from my AI friend we caught his fleet of 2 marzas and some carriers(alot smaller then I thought since it had been awhile since we fought cause I was building a fleet to come back).When he defeated my plantes early he had 2 marzas from the start vs my progenitar and 10 disciples. Soooo I killed his 2 marzas as they were running away and he says my ships wont move then quits. I was like wtf?? Not a big deal mind you but was irritating since I did all this work for a comeback after him killing 2 of my planets and he quits over a few ships. I had thought the battle had just begun when it was already over . Side note: The first planet he killed I had just colonized but the 2nd was a big deal as it was all my cyrstal(basically) and 2 military labs which had just got me ilums. So I had rebuild my labs and build my force with like 2 crystal extractors.

As for the topic at hand I am all for a % win. No culture but of basic logistics. Number of planets owned vs enemy along with fleet and income. This would be a fair win especially with a timer. If you cant make any comeback(take back 1 planet) then you pretty much lost. The problem is if you play a map of larger size. Its hard to manage defense across a whole empire and takes long time to move fleets. The game could go on forever if you cant catch his fleet. Mopping up on a large map sucks too.Thats why I try not to play them. Maybe thets not for everyone but the option would be nice.

At least newt stayed in the game and did not quit.  It could have been worse. 

Had I seen this

1:17:  Cp. Kenpachi:  Give up Newt

I would be pretty ticked.  I would either A keep playing as long as I could fight.  And if the give up crap continued I think I may just walk off and let the game run its course.  If that were to happen, its not like your going to loose unless your quit.  To tell some one to quit because you want the easy win is just as bad as the people that host a game jump out the moment they start loosing. Its not like he stopped the game so that your can't win.

I did have a question do you need to destroy all their planets and all the ships to win, or is it all planets and any ship that can colonise? 

There is something that people need to remember here. The players asking for the surrender are better then the AIs that NEWT had supporting him. So they would win that part of the battle. And I don't know of any player (DT guys included) that can take two or three good players by themselves. 2v3 or 4v6 etc... maybe, since double teamed player(s) only has to hold out while the other one win a 1v1 enough to lend some support. But 1 human + 2 AI vs 3 humans when the 3 are some of the better players online is going to near impossible to win. So the outcome sort of is already decided. It is now a mopping up exercise.

So yes, it IS possible to come back and win after being hit hard, especially if you have an ally who can help you. But the AIs will not sacrifice their fleet to save you and let you rebuild like a human will - it runs away chicken. And these players are unlikely to make a stupid mistake to let you kill them... Such as giving you an opportunity to rebuild your fleet by leaving you alone for 10-15 minutes and attacking somewhere else....

woe wait whip you mean gini didnt get pissed off at this guy

I also appoloies i am cp.kenpachi as will but i relise this this during the game. But i did not belive that whip would accutly post this.( after me a gini told him not too) People do have a right to play out in the end. but some time some ppl must understand that we all have live to get too we can just be spending time plaing sins al the time if a person work hard to get a win and accutly come out victoryise they they have a right to that win tho when i ask him to give up i  new their was little chance he might put up a fight so it would be better to move on with are live and froget thsi hole thing ever happen

please accept my sincere apology

CP. KENPACHI

P.S  please exusu my bad spelling

He probably did, but after the 1:28 mark where my replay minidumps.

Just the planets.

And now in 1.1, when the host quits, the game migrates to a new host, and continues.  It doesn't end.

I'lle finally weigh in here.  A big unseen factor was the freinds outside the game begging them to hurry up.  And anytime anyone asks you to quit before you've even battled, the natural response is no.

Jedi Obi Won

Well, in this case, this is when you either quit to play with your friends, your friends go ahead and play a game without you, or you tell the friends they are just gonna have to wait a little longer while you completely decimate this guy your playing.

Pretty easy choices if you ask me...not be rude to your opponent and tell them how they should play.

lol g

oh good i was woried there for a secound